AIVV false story of Om Radhe Mama

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Re: AIVV false story of Om Radhe Mama

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indie wrote:This is completely false as it is mentioned in SM that there were 'two mothers who run the show in the beginning' and om Radhey, a young kanya is not the incharge.
Someone has been selling a cheap story, but it's hard to say who. The chief justice of India, Hardayal Hardy, visited the Yagya in 1938 and met Om Radhe as the person in charge if the Yagya. He described that in documents prepared about the Yagya for the government. He presented Om Radhe Mama as the one in charge and president of the Yagya in 1938.
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Anu wrote:
Someone has been selling a cheap story, but it's hard to say who. The chief justice of India, Hardayal Hardy, visited the Yagya in 1938 and met Om Radhe as the person in charge if the Yagya. He described that in documents prepared about the Yagya for the government. He presented Om Radhe Mama as the one in charge and president of the Yagya in 1938.
I feel so sorry for you that you believe blindly in whatever others or the scientist say and do not believe Rambap-Baba Dixit. People spread their beliefs simply to benefit themselves and you fall prey to them.

If you read SM and you will realize that AK tallies perfectly to the cryptic sermons of Shiva, you will never have any doubts on AK and its author.

Even if there are ambiguities in AK, then it is caused by child Krishna and one shouldn't get confused as it is warned in SM in the beginning itself that "this Brahma will speak too so do not get confused."

Even if Brahma(mother) interferes, what is wrong in it as Brahma is our mother. We do not leave our parents just because mother is saying something that she herself doesn't understand.

If someone who is not being patient and doesn't understand knowledge and becomes frustrated and disappointed over this Godly study, then it is their misfortune only as they lose so much after revelation as positions are given only after the final examination.

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pbkindiana wrote:Even if Brahma(mother) interferes, what is wrong in it as Brahma is our mother. We do not leave our parents just because mother is saying something that she herself doesn't understand.
Nice point Indie Bhai!
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ANU wrote: The chief justice of India, Hardayal Hardy, visited the Yagya in 1938 and met Om Radhe as the person in charge if the Yagya. He described that in documents prepared about the Yagya for the government. He presented Om Radhe Mama as the one in charge and president of the Yagya in 1938.
And what kind of proof can anyone grasp from this statement? Nothing at all.
I also feel sorry for you Anu and 'the female from the West'. You have lost the track in the Advanced Knowledge. Supreme Justice is One and only ShivBaba.
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Re: AIVV false story of Om Radhe Mama

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Brahma Baba and Om Radhe are said to have had similarity in effort and sanskars, they used to match one another, to have relationship of equality, but Om Radhe is daughter of Brahma Baba, he is her mother. Om Radhe is mother, because of being senior in inculcation.
She was a mature girl (major, 18 years old) when she came to surrender in the Yagya. She wrote and signed official documents which were respected in official offices.
In the document presented it is mentioned Om Mandli is private family institution. It was not registered officialy so that Om Radhe needs to be 18 to be President. In the Murli it is said, how can we register the Godly government with the devilish government.
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warrior wrote:I also feel sorry for you Anu and 'the female from the West'. You have lost the track in the Advanced Knowledge. Supreme Justice is One and only ShivBaba.
My friend turned to be blind and refused to accept facts when it became obvious that some of her findings shared with me and my findings in Calcutta done on her request are applicable to AK and AK teacher even more than to BKs.


Post here at least 3 proofs that Baba Virendra Dev Dixit is ShivBaba who is the Supreme Justice. Post only hard facts not AK slogans and bleating, which do not convince me and cannot be treated as rational proofs by be.

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ANU wrote:Post here at least 3 proofs that Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit is ShivBaba who is the Supreme Justice. Post only hard facts not AK slogans and bleating, which do not convince me and cannot be treated as rational proofs by be.
1. No other personality has gone to such extent in explaining the Sakar/avyact versions.
2. On the basis of these explanations the soul undergoes a transformation with the thinking and churning pwers which was not there previously.
3. No-one is giving any explanation or clarification to Baba/Virendra Dev Dixit.
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Re: AIVV false story of Om Radhe Mama

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button slammer wrote:1. No other personality has gone to such extent in explaining the Sakar/avyact versions.2. On the basis of these explanations the soul undergoes a transformation with the thinking and churning pwers which was not there previously.3. No-one is giving any explanation or clarification to Baba/Virendra Dev Dixit.
Great points Button Bhai; and i have definately found no 2 to be true from personal experience(though others may dispute this!). :D

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Button slammer wrote:
1. No other personality has gone to such extent in explaining the Sakar/avyact versions.
2. On the basis of these explanations the soul undergoes a transformation with the thinking and churning pwers which was not there previously.
3. No-one is giving any explanation or clarification to Baba/Veerendra Dev Dixit
.

I fully agree with Button Bhai's views as with one's personal experience after reading AK, one can notice the stage of the intellect is going upwards and this is an indication of the power of God. If Anu wants physical proof, then he has to wait when Baba Dixit physical features change as it is said in an AV that "his physical features will change". Those who wait for the transformation of the physical features will come into the catergory of maids and servants.

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Re: AIVV false story of Om Radhe Mama

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Adding some info on the topic after a long time. In the book Adi Devi, published by the BK, Dadi Prakashmani mentions that they used to be classmates with Mama and sit on the same bench, so they must be of the same age. For Dadi Prakashmani it is said by BK that she is born in 1922. If Mama is born in 1922, she will be 14 in 1936. I don't know if there was the practice of having pupils of different age in the same class, at that time, though. I even found somewhere in internet date of birth for Dadi Prakashmani mentioned 1 january 1924. It we can get the year of birth of Dadi Prakashmani with certainty, this can be some clue.

In the list of the founding committee which is published in the "Is this justice" book, Mama is shown to be 22, and this list must have been published in 1938, which will mean that she is born in 1916. But in the Adi Devi book it says 1919.
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