fluffy bunny wrote:These are separate issues but what is the difference between Pashupati, "Lord of animals", and Prajapati "Lord of creatures", as Lekhraj Kirpalani was first known? Generally it is thought Pashupati related to Shiva and Prajapati related to Vishnu.
Good questions! Here are points from Advance Knowledge on the subject...
"Paaras itself means the one who applies the colour of his company to others, but he is not coloured by the company of others. That is about the Father(Ram ShivBaba) alone. There is no such stone which turns iron into gold on being touched. It is a memorial of Parasnath Himself(Pashupatinath) at present in the Confluence Age... that all the souls who come in connection and contact [with Him], the more they come in His connection and contact truthfully and not untruthfully, the more they will become true gold." [Varta 621]
Student: What is meant by the Daksh Prajapati Yagya?
Baba: Daksh means trained; what? For example, there is a family, an institution or some management; so, the one who runs the management is called a manager. For example there is hotel management; are they given training or not? They are given [the training]. So, some managers are very clever, they become perfectly trained, so they are called daksh (proficient). The word daksh is the root for the word ‘dikshit’. So, it is about training. Just as training takes place in the world, [this is] a training to run the human world. Someone is called a head who manages 2 billion human beings in the human world. For example, Christ; he is a Prajapita for his group. He is efficient in administrating his group. Similarly there are number wise (of different capacities) other religious fathers too who are proficient in administrating a small or big group of the human world. But there is a Father of all of them who is called the Father of the fathers. He is a Father of the religious fathers as well, The one who is accepted by every religion . He is 100 percent proficient; he is trained. He is proved to be trained in controlling the entire generation of the world and in controlling them easily and happily; he is called Vishvapita (the Father of the world). Otherwise, there have been big [personalities] in the world who wished to get this title… that we will be the controller of the entire world. Alexander, Mussolini, Hitler, Napoleon; they all have been violent. They desired to control all the human beings of the world on the basis of physical power [and] violence. That is not efficiency. They were unsuccessful. Only one Daksh Prajapita is praised who is counted as the head of the entire mankind. He is named Daksh Prajapati in the scriptures. Is the Father first or the husband first? The Father, the one who gives birth is first. The one who controls, the one who safeguards is called husband (pati). He becomes the husband of the world (Vishwapati) later on. So, the perfect stage is praised in the scriptures as Daksh Prajapati. [Varta 902]
So i would agree that Pashupati relates to the role of Shiva through the corporeal body of Ram aka Prajapita, turning humans in deities through Knowledge and His company, after 1976. Prajapati relates to the part of Ram's soul once he becomes complete and is in control of the entire world... It is a part that also corresponds with him being the no 1 Vishnu soul, the sustainer of Heaven or Vaikunth aka Vishnupuri.
fluffy bunny wrote:Back on topic, how could the Om Mandlites be advancing, clearing their karma, and purifying themselves ... when they did not have accurate knowledge of the form of their god and, therefore, an accurate connection until 1962? And what could Om Radhe really achieved in 2 to 3 years during when she was suffering terminal illness?
It is said that Om Radhe had a sharp intellect, and passed in basic knowledge. When she died her painful death through cancer she cleared the last of her accounts of the body... but she would also have to recognise the true Father and His teachings to finally become complete at the end. In general though, i believe most Brahmins don't clear their accounts through remembrance, they clear them through punishments at the end. Most souls even with knowledge make very poor efforts, and it is only the 108 who become complete with little or no punishment as a result of their powerful remembrance... the rest have to be punished to become complete. It is Shanakar aka Ram who sits in powerful remembrance for 40 to 50 years... from 1969 to 2018, and completely burns his heavy karmas away and thus receives absolutely no punishment at the end... everyone else is numberwise in this. Even the 16000 don't come anywhere near to clearing their karmic accounts through remembrance alone... this is why from the Copper Age onwards they will not become Kings for birth after birth, and will only be born into a Royal family for the most part.
fluffy bunny wrote:It strikes me the deification of Radhi Pokardas Rajwani, especially by people know never even knew her, is a little obscene. I am thinking that in the beginning, it must have started as something of a shock or trauma caused by her death where they have to inflate her importance and it's just run away with exaggeration ever since. I do also wonder which realm such souls must be in.
Yes, she is worshipped by the BKs in a way that is not according to Shrimat, and they thus do the shooting of the worship of deities in the Copper Age onwards. She was the no 2 effort maker in the Yagya, only surpassed by Brahma Baba... but it has to be remembered that there where three souls in the beginning of the Yagya who even taught Mama and Baba... and it is these 5 souls together who constitute the role of Vishnu at the end. In Bhakti i believe she is remembered for the roles she plays through other soul's bodies after her death, not the role she played through her own... just as in Brahma Baba's case. These subtle bodied souls live in the corporeal world but are floating around, rather than being grounded like us in corporeal bodies. They can go where they like whenever they like.