Ideological interpretation of the Yagya History - REVs .

[Golden Heart]

Sweetest, Beloved Golden Hearts,

The Version below has already been addressed earlier in this thread on 1st February, 2015 !

“It is the praise only for the Supreme Soul (S S S) – O purifier of the sinful ones. He even comes in a sinful world and a sinful body (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani). The name of the sinful body is Prajapita Brahma (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani). HE ENTERS IN THIS ONE (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) and says – I enter in an ORDINARY human body (as compared to the 1st ROYAL deity body of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani himself in G A – Shri Krishna – which has been CLARIFIED in other SMs by S S S CLEARLY, as also in this SM) of the last one of many births. It is Radha and Krishna (Om Radhe & BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani in their 1st ROYAL deity bodies of G A) who take many births. The LAST ONE OF THEIR MANY BIRTHS is ORDINARY (compared to their 1st birth in G A, which is ROYAL). He does not say that – I enter in a pure body (of Shri Krishna in G A). God says – I ENTER IN AN ORDINARY BODY (the 84th ORDINARY body of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, as COMPARED to his own ROYAL body in G A, as Shri Krishna; and NOT COMPARED TO ANY OTHER BODY in Confluence Age, which the Defamer of God TRICKS his gullible followers into IMBIBING, to delusively make them believe that he is personified ShivBaba)! Well, God certainly comes and explains to the souls through THIS ORDINARY BODY (of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, prior 1969) that – I am the Supreme Father Supreme Soul (refers only to S S S, and NOT to the Defamer of God, as claimed by him, and delusively believed by his gullible followers). I am not the soul of Krishna, nor am I the soul of Brahma, Vishnu, Shankar. I am the Supreme Father Supreme Soul (refers ONLY to S S S, and no other human soul can claim this title, other than HiranyaKashyap – the Defamer of God – V D D), who is called ‘Shiv Parmaatmaay namah”. I have come in THIS ONE (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani). I don’t enter in the Subtle Region dweller Brahma (which is only the symbolic, representative PERFECT form of effort-maker BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani Prajapita Brahma in his corporeal body in Confluence Age, prior 1969). I have to come and purify the sinful ones here. It is through me that that Subtle Region dweller Brahma has become pure. This is why he has been shown in a subtle form.....The highest on high incorporeal ShivBaba is God. In order to give the inheritance He will certainly come in the body of Brahma (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani). THIS IS (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) Prajapita Brahma; the Subtle Region dweller Brahma will not be called Prajapita (he is only a symbolic, perfect representation in Subtle Region, AT THE TIME when BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani Prajapita Brhama plays his effort-maker part in Confluence Age in his corporeal vehicle, PRIOR 1969). Will the subjects (praja) be created there (when BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani Prajapita Brahma is in his corporeal body on earth, PRIOR 1969)? We BrahmaKumars-Kumaris (principal rulers of G A and S A, prior 1969) are in a corporeal form; so Prajapita (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, prior 1969) is also in a corporeal form. COME AND UNDERSTAND THIS SECRET. We do not call this Dada (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) as God. He is Prajapita (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani); ShivBaba (S S S) comes IN HIS BODY (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) to make us pure. Nobody is pure here. Instead of Trimurti Shiv they have mentioned Trimurti Brahma. But there is no meaning of Trimurti Brahma (these are further CORRUPTED INTERPRETATIONS & LIES propagated by the Defamer of God, in the ‘shooting’ period of Ravan Rajya in latter part of Confluence Age).”

When BrahmaKumars-Kumaris (principal rulers of G A and S A, prior 1969) are in a corporeal form (CORPOREAL CONSCIOUSNESS), Prajapita (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, prior 1969) is also in a corporeal form (CORPOREAL CONSCIOUSNESS, in a CORPOREAL VEHICLE). When BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani becomes a COMPLETE ANGEL, he achieves the constant SUBTLE CONSCIOUSNESS in a SUBTLE VEHICLE; and SIMULTANEOUSLY, the principal rulers of G A and S A are able to CONTINUE taking sustenance from S S S through the subtle vehicle of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, after 1969, since they too develop a SUBTLE CONSCIOUSNESS, number-wise, although still being in a corporeal form, for the sake of Godly Service! Evidently, the gullible followers of the Defamer of God, who cannot take spiritual sustenance from S S S through BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, when he achieves the 'COMPLETE KARMATEET STAGE', since they are STILL in a corporeal consciousness, have no option but to CONSIDER the Defamer of God as THEIR Prajapita Brahma, after 1969, so that they can take sustenance of the REVERSED Advance knowledge in 'Sakar', to be able to receive the inheritance of ruler-ship in Ravan Rajya from Ravan, through the Defamer of God - V D D - who HIJACKS the above Version, (under the ACTIVE influence of Ravan), originally meant EXCLUSIVELY for BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani ALONE, to apply to himself, after 1969, thus CONFIRMING his HiranyaKashyapHood !!!
WHAT A ‘MAJESTICALLY’ BEWITCHING DRAMA, INDEED ! ! !
( Although, the gullible followers of the Defamer of God, carry the PURE Versions of S S S on the ‘BACK’ of their CORRUPTED intellects, like spiritual 'DONKEYS', THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING AT ALL, in the RIGHT PERSPECTIVE !!! )

Why do people (PBKs, in particular - in the 'shooting' period of Ravan Rajya in Confluence Age) study the (TRUE) Gita (SMs and AVs) so much? THEY DON’T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING AT ALL! THEY (the Defamer of God and his gullible followers) JUST TAKE UP A FEW CHAPTERS (random Versions in SMs and AVs) AND EXTRACT THEIR OWN MEANING FROM THEM ! All of that is created by human beings (the Defamer of God and his gullible followers - DELUSIVELY claiming same to be the 'Murlis' or Versions of GOD)!

HAVE MERCY ON THEM !
FORGIVE THEM – FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY SPEAK AND WHAT THEY DO ! ! !

THOSE WHO HAVE A CLEAR, PURE, DIVINE INTELLECT TO PERCEIVE, LET THEM PERCEIVE !!!

With Eternal, Infinite, Imperishable Divine LOVE . . . In Loveful Remembrance of Supreme Soul Shiv,
Golden Heart

[fluffy bunny]

Are you one of the Vishnu Party people?

Do you actually believe in BKism these days?

[Roy]

Evidently, the gullible followers of the Defamer of God, who cannot take the sustenance from BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani when he achieves the 'COMPLETE KARMATEET STAGE', since they are in a corporeal consciousness

If Brahma Baba Krishna has achieved the complete karmateet stage, why is he still carrying a subtle body around with him?... this is the sign of an effort maker soul who thinks and churns, or a soul who remains impure to a greater or lesser degree... A truly incorporeal soul like Father Shiv who is beyond thought has no subtle body... this is why when he enters a human body we don't know if He's there, until he begins to speak knowledge. With Brahma Baba, his subtle body puts pressure on dad Gulzar's organs and puts her to sleep when he enters her...

"Even ghosts come and enter. However, that is a (human) soul, isn’t it (not the Supreme Soul)? When the ghost performs its task, then the part of that soul (in whose body the ghost has entered) comes to a halt.” [Mu 12.07.73]

“When someone’s soul enters Brahmins, people recognize (that soul) by the style of his speech, don’t they? How can we recognize someone without (listening to his) speech? The manner in which he speaks indicates that this is definitely such and such soul. Even in the case of ShivBaba, we can understand that ShivBaba(Father Shiv) is speaking only when He gives knowledge. This one(i.e. Brahma Baba Krishna) cannot give knowledge. Nobody except the Father can explain this.” [Mu 14.06.08]

“Does anyone come to know when the Father comes? Does (Brahma)Baba come to know? No, (he) does not even come to know (until Father Shiv begins to narrate knowledge through him).” [Mu 05.05.73]

"When I (Shiv) enter, nobody can understand that, because it is a secret. When I enter when I leave the Chariot, this can never be known." (When BapDada enters Dadi Gulzar, her features change; just as happens in the outside world, when ghosts/spirits enter mediums, due to the subtle bodies that impure or incomplete souls carry around with them) [Mu 26.01.68]

This is why Brahma Baba Krishna has not yet become Vishnu, because he is still an effort maker who isn't yet complete... and he won't become complete(i.e. Vishnu) until the end when his studies have finished and then it becomes Brahma's day...

"Now it's Brahma's night. So it is night for Brahma(Baba Krishna) also, isn't it? Then, when he becomes Vishnu (at the end, when he finally becomes complete), it will be day (for all of us)." [Mu 15.10.77]

"Not that Mama and Baba have become complete(karmateet). The complete stage will be achieved (by both of them) only in the end. Presently, nobody can call himself complete." [Mu 14.11.78]

"First and foremost Mama(Om Radhe) achieved the best position... she achieved the karmatit stage... she transcended all bodily sorrows (but hadn't completed her studies - i.e. she wasn't complete in knowledge)." [Mu 09.05.66]

"Your Mama has ascended to the Subtle Regions. Her karmic accounts of the physical world ended (but she wasn't complete in knowledge at this time)." [Mu 21.06.66]

"Although Mama(Om Radhe) doesn’t possess a (corporeal) body, she continues to make efforts (through her subtle body). She goes out on service. She enters into the bodies of children and shows the path to the sinful to become pure." [Mu 22.07.72]

"If Mama(Om Radhe) and (Brahma)Baba(Krishna) enter into someone (in their subtle bodies), then they can sit there itself and study through them." [Mu 27.08.05]

Om Shanti

[Roy]

He does not say that – I enter in a pure body (of Shri Krishna in G A). God says – I ENTER IN AN ORDINARY BODY (the 84th ORDINARY body of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, as COMPARED to his own ROYAL body in G A, as Shri Krishna; and NOT COMPARED TO ANY OTHER BODY in Confluence Age, which the Defamer of God TRICKS his gullible followers into IMBIBING, to delusively make them believe that he is personified ShivBaba)! Well, God certainly comes and explains to the souls through THIS ORDINARY BODY (of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, prior 1969) that – I am the Supreme Father Supreme Soul (refers only to S S S, and NOT to the Defamer of God, as claimed by him, and delusively believed by his gullible followers).

Why would Father Shiv enter the body of the pure Krishna in the Golden Age?... what would be the point of that?... Father Shiv is talking about the fact that He doesn't enter pure virgins in the Confluence Age... He enters experienced souls, those that have experienced the corrupt outside world! This is why he says this...

"Now there is no kalaa(degree of soul consciousness). There are no praises for them(i.e. the BK Dadis). Human beings(unknowledgeable souls in the Brahmin world) do not know this. It is not in the fate of any of the highest personalities or great souls etc. (of the BK Yagya to receive praises in Bhakti marg for their purity). Mostly it is in the luck of poor people (to recognise the practical part of Father). He is such a highest Father; so He should enter into a body of a king or pure sage. Monks are only pure. He should come in the body of a pure virgin, but it is not according to the rule. He is a Father, so how can He ride on the body of a virgin? Father sits and explains, ‘whom do I enter into?’ I enter into the body of that soul only, which takes complete 84 births. Not even a day less." [Mu 15.10.69]

Of course we all know that in later versions of this Murli, that the point has been altered to read that Father Shiv does enter in pure virgins... i wonder why?

Then there is also the matter of the complete 84 births of 5000 years duration that Brahma Baba clearly doesn't achieve, so he cannot be the one that Father Shiv is talking about in this point!

You may wish to turn a blind eye to these points golden heart as it suits your agenda, but your are fooling no-one who actually reads the Murlis with any discernment!

Om Shanti

[Golden Heart]

Sweetest, Beloved Golden Hearts,

It has already been hitherto CLEARLY & EXPLICITLY demonstrated that the gullible followers of the Defamer of God CANNOT COMPREHEND the Pure Versions of God in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE, due to their INVERTED INTELLECTS ! ! !

For the sake of brevity, only following points are being taken up, to reiterate and RE-CONFIRM the same !

"Although Mama(Om Radhe) doesn’t possess a (corporeal) body, she continues to make efforts (through her subtle body). She goes out on service. She enters into the bodies of Children and shows the path to the sinful to become pure." [Mu 22.07.72]
(Om Radhe enters the bodies of sinful children to show the path to the sinful children. This DOES NOT mean that Om Radhe enters a sinful child – like V D D or KDD-S – and the sinful ‘child’ shows the path to Om Radhe or that Om Radhe learns or studies from the sinful ‘child’! There is no need for a soul who has ALREADY COMPLETED SETTLING all 'karmic' accounts through a physical medium, and who is operating through an ELEVATED subtle medium, to learn from a sinful soul, who is still in the process of settling 'karmic' accounts through a DEGRADED physical medium. ONLY a 'maha-murkh' - GREATEST SPIRITUAL IDIOT, like V D D - can propagate such PREPOSTEROUS SPIRITUAL GARBAGE, which is readily 'lapped up' by his equally 'maha-murkh' followers, BLINDLY ! ! !)

"If Mama(Om Radhe) and (Brahma)Baba(Krishna) enter into someone (in their ELEVATED subtle bodies), then they (the sinful children with DEGRADED corporeal bodies, into whom Mama and Baba enter) can sit there itself (no need to go to any bodily guru, like V D D, and get MISERABLY TRAPPED in the 'bodily gurudom' of Ravan) and study through THEM (through Mama and Baba – Om Radhe and BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani - in their ELEVATED 'Avyakt' stage, NUMBER-WISE)." [Mu 27.08.05]
(This means that the SINFUL child into whom Om Radhe and BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani enter, learns from Om Radhe and BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani; and NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND – as is DELUSIVELY BELIEVED by the gullible followers of the Defamer of God, with INVERTED INTELLECTS ! ! ! To consider that a human soul, operating through an ELEVATED 'Avyakt' medium, learns from or studies from a human soul, operating through a DEGRADED corporeal medium, is equivalent to insinuating that a College student can learn or study from a School student !)

These are CLEAR, ABSOLUTELY INFALLIBLE PROOFS of the HiranyaKashyapHood of the Defamer of God and his gullible followers, preparing themselves for the BROTHEL (Vaishalay) – Ravan Rajya - delusively believing OTHERWISE!!!

Since their intellects have been INVERTED by the Defamer of God, after 1969, with the CORRUPTED interpretations of the Pure Versions of S S S, the gullible followers of the Defamer of God cannot PERCEIVE the PURE INTENT of S S S, as per their governing ‘sankars’, which are currently operating at LESS THAN 8 Celestial Degrees Purity, in the ‘shooting’ period of Ravan Rajya in Confluence Age - as ALSO in the case of their ‘bodily’ guru, V D D !!! When their intellects are ACTUALLY INVERTED, HOW CAN THE LOGIC OF THEIR INTELLECTS ACCURATELY PERCEIVE THE PURE INTENT OF S S S ??? They CANNOT even comprehend the VERY BASIC CONCEPTS which are being clarified here in the MOST SIMPLE MANNER !

The ‘maha-murkh’, STUPID, SPIRITUAL ‘IDIOTS’, gullible followers of the Defamer of God, BLINDLY FOLLOW the Defamer of God, since they DO NOT POSSESS the required Purity of the Intellect to discern what S S S has ACTUALLY said in the concerned Version, and what they are made to believe by the Defamer of God! This is yet another SPECTACULAR EXAMPLE, which is SUFFICIENT for any soul with a Pure Intellect to THOROUGHLY COMPREHEND how the Pure Versions of GOD are 'intellectually' MANIPULATED, TWISTED and CORRUPTED by the CORRUPTED INVERTED INTELLECTS of the Defamer of God and his gullible BLIND followers !!!
NO FURTHER PROOF would be required by souls with a Pure Intellect ! Of course, the 'maha-murkh' gullible followers of the Defamer of God will CONTINUE to blow their bugle, trumpet or conch of the REVERSED, CORRUPTED, ADULTERATED, POLLUTED and INVERTED so-called Advance knowledge, with ENHANCED IMPUNITY, owing to their ARROGANCE of body-consciousness, and TOTAL INABILITY to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND the Pure Versions of S S S in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE ! They CANNOT be blamed or condemned or hated for their 'UNRIGHTEOUS' CONDUCT, since they are MERELY PLAYING OUT their DESIGNATED ROLES within EWD, which is PRE-DESTINED and PRE-ORDAINED - ALL, PERFECTLY, AS PER DRAMA PLAN, OF COURSE - NOTHING NEW ! ! !
However, their CORRUPTED, ADULTERATED and POLLUTED 'spiritual faeces' of REVERSED and INVERTED knowledge should be AVOIDED and IGNORED by 'innocent' Children, otherwise Ravan will get a chance to GRIP their minds as well, and TRAP them IRREVOCABLY in the 'bodily gurudom' of Ravan Rajya ! ! !

ALL CONCERNED HAVE BEEN ADEQUATELY WARNED IN ADVANCE, and will have no recourse to blame anyone, including GOD, at the time of the FINAL RECKONING ! ! !

THOSE WHO HAVE A CLEAR, PURE, DIVINE INTELLECT TO PERCEIVE, LET THEM PERCEIVE !!!

With Eternal, Infinite, Imperishable Divine LOVE . . . In Loveful Remembrance of Supreme Soul Shiv,
Golden Heart

[fluffy bunny]

The more someone feels the need to exaggerate to make their point, the more you can be sure they completely wrong in their views.

Truth does need to bray like a donkey or ass.

I am sorry but I find someone who just talks at me, whilst ignoring polite questions, impolite.

Blah ... blah ... blah.

Make an effort and try and engage with others, rather than engaging in all this intellectual cock sword fighting, will you?

[Golden Heart]

Sweetest, Beloved Golden Hearts,

V-36: But I say unto you, that EVERY IDLE WORD that men (souls) shall speak, they shall give account thereof on the Day of Judgment! (MAKE NO MISTAKE) ! ! !
V-37: For by thy words thou shalt be JUSTIFIED, and by thy words thou shalt be CONDEMNED!

V-43 : When the unclean spirit (a demon) is gone out of a man (a soul), he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and FINDETH NONE!
V-44 : Then he saith (to himself), I will return into my house (the body) from whence I came out; and when he (the demon) is come (back), he findeth it EMPTY, swept, and garnished (with IMPURITY).
V-45 : Then goeth he (the demon), and taketh with himself seven other spirits (demons) MORE WICKED than himself, and they enter in and dwell there (in that body): and the last state of that man (that soul) is WORSE THAN THE FIRST. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation (of spiritual ‘VIPERS’) ! ! !

‘Old Mother Hubbard’
Went to the ‘cupboard’,
To give the 'poor' ‘DoG’ a ‘bone’;
But when she went 'there',
The ‘cupboard’ was ‘bare’,
And so the 'poor' ‘DoG’ had 'NONE' !

HAVE MERCY ON THEM !
FORGIVE THEM – FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY SPEAK AND WHAT THEY DO ! ! !

THOSE WHO HAVE A CLEAR, PURE, DIVINE INTELLECT TO PERCEIVE, LET THEM PERCEIVE !!!

With Eternal, Infinite, Imperishable Divine LOVE . . . In Loveful Remembrance of Supreme Soul Shiv,
Golden Heart

[arjun]

(Om Radhe enters the bodies of sinful children to show the path to the sinful children. This DOES NOT mean that Om Radhe enters a sinful child – like V D D or KDD-S – and the sinful ‘child’ shows the path to Om Radhe or that Om Radhe learns or studies from the sinful ‘child’! There is no need for a soul who has ALREADY COMPLETED SETTLING all 'karmic' accounts through a physical medium, and who is operating through an ELEVATED subtle medium, to learn from a sinful soul, who is still in the process of settling 'karmic' accounts through a DEGRADED physical medium. ONLY a 'maha-murkh' - GREATEST SPIRITUAL IDIOT, like V D D - can propagate such PREPOSTEROUS SPIRITUAL GARBAGE, which is readily 'lapped up' by his equally 'maha-murkh' followers, BLINDLY ! ! !)

golden heart and lakhs of BKs like him/her are under the illusion that Brahma Baba and Mama had become perfect before they left their bodies, but the truth is that they had become complete only to the extent of knowledge that was delivered by Father Shiv till that time. Baba says in the Murlis that He will continue to teach till the end. So, when the teaching process has not yet finished how can the final results be announced?????

Moreover, seeing the following pictures you will realize that Brahma Baba and Mama were still in some body consciousness before leaving their bodies. Baba has strictly prohibited displaying photographs of bodily beings in the centers and Madhuban, but Mama and Baba themselves felt happy in getting photographed and also could not prevent their photographs being displayed in Madhuban even when they were alive. And what to say about the period post their demise?????????? It is for everyone to see for themselves.

[arjun]

• "Baap kahtey hain tumko koi bhi chitra rakhney kee darkaar nahee. Kyaa tum ShivBaba ko nahee jaantey jo chitra rakhtey ho? Kya chitra rakhney say Yaad kar saktey ho? Baba jeeta hai fir bachchey chitra kyon rakhengey? Baap tumko gyaan dey raha hai fir chitra kya karengey? Boodhey hain Yaad bhool jaati hai isliye chitra diya jaataa hai. Baaki aur koi bhi dehdhaari ko Yaad kartey rahengey toh anth samay vahee Yaad aayega. Kuch na kuch rag hai toh vah tumhaarey peechey padega. Fir bhaley kitney bhi ShivBaba ke chitra rakho. Agar rag aur taraf hogi toh vah Yaad jaroor aayega. Isliye Baap kahtey hain bachchey poora nashtomoha ho jaao." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli taareekh 26.12.07, pg 3&4)

• “The Father says – there is no need for you to keep any picture. Don’t you know ShivBaba that you keep (His) pictures? Can you remember (Him) by keeping (His) pictures? When Baba is alive, then why will children keep pictures? The Father is giving you knowledge, then what will you do with pictures? There are aged ones; they forget to remember (Baba), this is why picture is given. But if you keep remembering any other bodily being, then in the end his thoughts will only come to your mind. If there is attachment to some extent or the other, then he will chase you. Then you may keep any number of pictures of ShivBaba. If you have attachment for someone else, then he will certainly come to your mind. This is why the Father says – Children, become completely victorious over attachment.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 26.12.07, pg 3&4 published by BKs)
- Baba is telling that there is no need for you to keep any picture. He is also telling that when Baba is alive, then why will children keep pictures? The Father is giving you knowledge, then what will you do with pictures? But BKs keep the pictures of Brahma Baba, Mama, Dadis and other BKs at Madhuban, Centers and their respective homes. Does it not mean that we still have attachment for these bodily beings? Does it not mean that we do not consider Baba to be alive? If we accept that Baba is still giving us knowledge, then where is the need to keep the picture of any bodily being?

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The above photographs don't prove that they were sinful, they were indeed in a higher stage that most of the BKs of their time, but the above photographs do prove that they were not perfect.

[fluffy bunny]

Interesting, in that group photo, is that Janki Kirpalani second left?

Knowing how short she is, it suggests Lekhraj Kirpalani wasn't that tall. The BKs' photos are now so tall, he's portrayed like a giant.

Bible – New Testament – KJV - Matthew Ch 12

V-36: But I say unto you ...

Who cares what the Bible says!?!

All your post proves is that your mentality is at the level of goading others, and that you think you can twist people's mind using religious fear.

How spiritually low is that ...?

Not unless you stop your silliness and start talking to us nicely and intelligently like a normal person, I'll indulge my self too.

[arjun]

Interesting, in that group photo, is that Janki Kirpalani second left?

I think yes.

The way sisters are standing so close to him, even touching him, had any such photograph of PBK sisters with Baba Virendra Dev Dixit emerged in public, the BKs would have used it to defame him as a sinful, corrupt, unrighteous person. But the same BKs adore the above photograph and even revere him.

There is another photograph of Mama and Baba sitting on a swing with a sister sitting in the middle with her upper half on Brahma Baba's lap. Had any such photograph of Baba Virendra Dev Dixit appeared with any PBK sister, they would have taken him to the court alleging him to be adulterous and vicious. This is their double standard.

[fluffy bunny]

Well, we know from affidavits in the early days it got a lot hotter than that with Lekhraj Kirpalani bathing with the girls, sleeping and, it is said, massaging their breasts.

[Golden Heart]

Sweetest, Beloved Golden Hearts,

“The Father (S S S) says – there is NO NEED for you to keep any ‘picture’ (of any bodily being - either gross or subtle – either in front of your two physical eyes; or in front of your third ‘Eye of the Intellect’ on the ‘Screen of your Mind’ – in your FINAL STAGE of REMEMBRANCE of NONE BUT ONE S S S – TRUE NUN – ONE Father and NONE OTHER – ‘I and the Father’, and NO THIRD INDIVIDUAL ! ! !). Don’t you know ShivBaba (INCORPOREAL S S S – a luminous point source of spiritual light energy) that you keep ‘pictures’ (of bodily beings, either gross or subtle)? Can you remember (INCORPOREAL S S S) by keeping ‘pictures’ (of bodily beings, either gross or subtle)? When Baba (S S S & BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani - BapDada) is ‘ALIVE’ (first, ‘actively alive’ in the corporeal vehicle of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani till 1969; and then, EVEN MORE ACTIVELY ALIVE in the subtle vehicle of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani after 1969, to date), then why will Children keep ‘pictures’ (of bodily beings, either gross or subtle)? The Father (S S S) is giving you Knowledge (and sustaining you till NOW - first through the corporeal vehicle of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani till 1969, and then through the subtle vehicle of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani through DG, to date), then what will you do with ‘pictures’ (of bodily beings, either gross or subtle)? There are ‘aged’ ones (like most IGNORANT and BLIND ‘maha-murkh’ PBKs, in particular); they forget (are not able) to remember (INCORPOREAL S S S), this is why ‘picture’ is given (to them, in the form of DVDs, which they watch every day in their ‘maha-murkh-shalas’). But if you keep remembering any other bodily being (like V D D, through DVDs, which they watch every day in their ‘maha-murkh-shalas’ – DYNAMIC VIEWING of ‘pictures’ by most PBKs, as compared to only the STATIC VIEWING of ‘pictures’ by most BKs) then in the end his thoughts (of bodily ‘maha-murkh’ guru, V D D) will only come to your mind (of most BLIND ‘maha-murkh’ PBKs, in particular). If there is attachment to some extent or the other, then he (the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan - V D D) will chase you (and RAPE you, with false promises and premises, as he has been RAPING the ‘kanyas’ and ‘mothers’, both physically and intellectually; and the ‘brothers’ intellectually - in the ‘shooting’ period of Ravan Rajya in Confluence Age!) Then you may keep any number of ‘pictures’ of ShivBaba (in the form of a bodily being, either gross or subtle). If you have attachment for someone else (other than INCORPOREAL S S S), then he (the bodily being, either gross or subtle) WILL CERTAINLY COME TO YOUR MIND! This is why the Father (S S S) says – Children, BECOME COMPLETELY VICTORIOUS OVER ATTACHMENT (to bodily beings, either gross or subtle)!” (BKWSU Rev SM dated 26.12.2007)

( Although, the gullible followers of the Defamer of God, carry the PURE Versions of S S S on the ‘BACK’ of their CORRUPTED intellects, like spiritual 'DONKEYS', THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING AT ALL, in the RIGHT PERSPECTIVE !!! )

Why do people (PBKs, in particular - in the 'shooting' period of Ravan Rajya in Confluence Age) study the (TRUE) Gita (SMs and AVs) so much? THEY DON’T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING AT ALL! THEY (the Defamer of God and his gullible followers) JUST TAKE UP A FEW CHAPTERS (random Versions in SMs and AVs) AND EXTRACT THEIR OWN MEANING FROM THEM ! All of that is created by human beings (the Defamer of God and his gullible followers - DELUSIVELY claiming same to be the 'Murlis' or Versions of GOD)!

It is becoming INCREASINGLY CLEAR that many principal ruler souls & religious leaders (kauravs) of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, on a GROSS level, are presently being sustained by many souls (kauravs) in the BK Org, on a SUBTLE level; and many souls (kauravs) in the PBK Org, on a SEED level - the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan in Confluence Age being the Defamer of God, V D D!
The 'Brahmin top-knots’ or 'scalps' of Ravan represent the PBK ‘kauravs’, the 'faces' of Ravan represent the BK ‘kauravs’ - in the 'shooting' period of Ravan Rajya, after 1969 - and the 'body' of Ravan represents most principal ruler souls & religious leaders (kauravs) of the outer World of Ravan Rajya! In another sense, the 'sanskars' of Ravan are represented by the ‘collective’ PBK ‘kauravs’, the 'intellect' of Ravan by the ‘collective’ BK ‘kauravs’, and the 'mind' of Ravan by the many ‘collective’ principal ruler souls of various States (kauravs) & many ‘collective’ religious heads of various Orgs (kauravs) of the outer World of Ravan Rajya!
The views being presented here cannot be construed as a mala fide intention to insult the PBKs or BKs (or any other individuals in the outer World of Ravan Rajya) WHATSOEVER – the bona fide intention being only to assist them to RE-cognize the REAL TRUTH & DIFFERENTIATE same from the 'APPARENT' TRUTH, for their VERY OWN ULTIMATE BENEFIT, as they are gradually in the process of completing their 'shooting' of Ravan Rajya, in the latter part of the Confluence Age; and in the process of completing their 'designated assignments' in the outer World of Ravan Rajya !

Most BLIND PBKs keep projecting the ‘malpractices’ in the BK Org, WITHOUT REALIZING – REAL EYESing – that they THEMSELVES are PRIMARILY sustaining those very ‘malpractices’, which they are highlighting, through their OWN ‘SEED’ form ! ! ! Thus, endeavouring to project their very own ‘Mothers’, ‘Sisters’ or ‘Brothers’ as ‘spiritual prostitutes’, they themselves CONFIRM their OWN ‘spiritual prostitution’ and ‘spiritual whoredom’ – PRACTICAL EXAMPLE being their own bodily guru – V D D, being the principal spiritual ‘GIGOLO’ – indulging in physical sexual relationships with most ‘kanyas’ and ‘mothers’; and their so-called ‘Jagadamba’ – KDD-S, being the principal spiritual ‘PROSTITUTE’ – having gone to the outer World of ‘spiritual whoredom’, and considered to be Miss World ! ! ! In G A and S A, India(Bharat) IS the WORLD; and the WORLD IS India(Bharat)! The concepts of Miss India and Miss World, as two separate entities, constitute the ‘shooting’ of Ravan Rajya, through the spiritual ‘faeces’ of the CORRUPTED & INVERTED knowledge propagated by Ravan through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of the Defamer of God – V D D!

The coding in the following Nursery Rhyme is simple!

Twinkle, twinkle, little Star, (refers to the soul & the Supreme Soul)
How I Wonder what You are ! (souls forget the ‘self’, as well as the ‘Supreme’)
Up above the World so High, (soul above the ‘world’ of the ‘body’, and S S S in the Soul World)
Like a Diamond in the Sky ! (a point source of luminous spiritual light energy – the soul in the ‘sky’ of the ‘brain’, and S S S in the ‘sky’ of the Soul World)

The coding in the following Nursery Rhyme is more complex!

Hey Diddle Diddle, (the main spiritual ‘BLUFFER’ – V D D; the main spiritual ‘FLUFFER’ – KDD-S; along with their spiritual ‘DUFFERS’ – their BLIND gullible followers)
The Cat and the Fiddle, (Maya, the feminine form of Ravan – KDD-S; and the ‘ling’ of the DoG, the masculine form of Ravan - V D D – the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan)
The Cow jumped over the Moon ! (the ‘mukrar-rath’ of S S S – BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, who TRANSCENDS the Moon Dynasty and is the FIRST SOVEREIGN of the Sun Dynasty)
The little DoG ‘laughed’, (the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, the Defamer of God, enjoying himself at the cost of others)
To ‘see’ such ‘fun’, (the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan – V D D – enjoing his sexual escapades and 'abuses')
And the Dish ran away with the Spoon ! (KDD-S running away with the ‘ling’ of BS, and abandoning the gullible followers, CONFIRMING their spiritual ‘orphan-hood’)

Most Nursery Rhymes are encoded with the occurrences in the ‘shooting’ period of Ravan Rajya in Confluence Age – the main ‘Bluffer’, ‘Fluffer’ and ‘Duffers’ on this forum being A, F, and the others, who keep endeavouring to 'pounce' on a ‘LIONESS’, without ‘REAL-EYES-ing’ - with whom they are endeavouring to interact, and what is in store for them EVENTUALLY ! ! ! They should be ‘thrilled’ to learn that their ‘actions’ are memorialized in the Nursery Rhymes, the World over ! ! !
HAVE MERCY ON THEM !
FORGIVE THEM – FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY SPEAK AND WHAT THEY DO ! ! !

FURTHER CLARIFICATIONS ON THE SUBJECT WOULD BE HIGHLIGHTED, as we move along !

THOSE WHO HAVE A CLEAR, PURE, DIVINE INTELLECT TO PERCEIVE, LET THEM PERCEIVE !!!

With Eternal, Infinite, Imperishable Divine LOVE . . . In Loveful Remembrance of Supreme Soul Shiv,
Golden Heart

[fluffy bunny]

You're very rude to ignore polite reasonable question, golden heart.

Tell me what your connection to the BKs and PBKs and any other splinter group is?

How long were you in the PBKs?

Why on earth would a nursery rhyme ... a lullaby to used send children to sleep ... be a memorial of the Confluence Age - unless it was a memorial of how the Brahma Kumaris infantilised adults, and made them go to sleep?

I think your insult just backfired on you.

Sleep, baby, sleep
Your Father tends sheep
Your mother shakes the dreamland tree
And from it fall sweet dreams for thee
Sleep, baby, sleep
Sleep, baby, sleep

[Roy]

“The Father (S S S) says – there is NO NEED for you to keep any ‘picture’ (of any bodily being - either gross or subtle – either in front of your two physical eyes; or in front of your third ‘Eye of the Intellect’ on the ‘Screen of your Mind’ – in your FINAL STAGE of REMEMBRANCE of NONE BUT ONE S S S – TRUE NUN – ONE Father and NONE OTHER – ‘I and the Father’, and NO THIRD INDIVIDUAL ! ! !). Don’t you know ShivBaba (INCORPOREAL S S S – a luminous point source of spiritual light energy) that you keep ‘pictures’ (of bodily beings, either gross or subtle)? Can you remember (INCORPOREAL S S S) by keeping ‘pictures’ (of bodily beings, either gross or subtle)? When Baba (S S S & BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani - BapDada) is ‘ALIVE’ (first, ‘actively alive’ in the corporeal vehicle of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani till 1969; and then, EVEN MORE ACTIVELY ALIVE in the subtle vehicle of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani after 1969, to date), then why will Children keep ‘pictures’ (of bodily beings, either gross or subtle)? The Father (S S S) is giving you Knowledge (and sustaining you till NOW - first through the corporeal vehicle of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani till 1969, and then through the subtle vehicle of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani through DG, to date), then what will you do with ‘pictures’ (of bodily beings, either gross or subtle)?

I think most people would consider being alive when you have a corporeal body with which to interact in this corporeal world... not that one is more alive when one has only a subtle body like a ghost. Ghosts are considered as beings caught between two worlds... neither corporeal nor incorporeal... how could Brahma Baba, a soul who isn't yet complete, who hasn't yet become Vishnu(so he still remains in the darkness of night) be more alive than the incorporeal Father Himself, when He enters a corporeal Chariot. Brahma Baba puts stress on his Chariot and makes her unconscious... his voice is a strained whisper... this doesn't strike me as more actively alive!

Like a Diamond in the Sky ! (a point source of luminous spiritual light energy – the soul in the ‘sky’ of the ‘brain’, and S S S in the ‘sky’ of the Soul World)

How can Father Shiv be perceived in the Soul World, when it is a world of mukti... a world where there is no activity or life. Father Shiv has to be perceived through a corporeal body, when He is alive... when He becomes the example of liberation in life, or jeevanmukti! Unfortunately, some souls believe one has to leave the body to become jeevanmukt, but this is clearly nonesense if you think about it... What are we training to ultimately become... deities who are soul conscious, living in corporeal bodies in the corporeal world.

the main ‘Bluffer’, ‘Fluffer’ and ‘Duffers’ on this forum being A, F, and the others, who keep endeavouring to 'pounce' on a ‘LIONESS’, without ‘REAL-EYES-ing’ - with whom they are endeavouring to interact, and what is in store for them EVENTUALLY ! ! !

Interesting comment golden heart... so you are saying that you are a lioness, roaring the truth at us demon-like souls. Thank you for at least engaging with us on a more personal level.