Mr. Dixit, under the ACTIVE influence of Ravan or Maya, in the 'shooting' period of Ravan Rajya in the Cnf Age, tries his LEVEL BEST to sustain his DECEPTIVE 'Yagya' by propagating CORRUPTED & ADULTERATED interpretations from 'tamopradhan Bhakti' scriptures, CRAFTILY MINGLED & MIXED with MISAPPROPRIATED & MISREPRESENTED points from the SMs and AVs. PBKs DELUSIVELY believe they are listening to some so-called ADVANCED KNOWLEDGE. But, we can see the REAL TRUTH here.
1) Regarding rashi/horoscope of Krishn and Christ - sufficient number of Murli points put here- http://www.brahmakumarisforum.net/chat/ ... ilit=rashisita wrote:There was the matter that the more powerful enters the less powerful one, but the PBKs say that the soul of Ram is more powerful, but they also say that now the bull is riding over Shankar. The soul of Ram is human Father, and there are all types of souls in the world, he is Father to the good and bad ones both, Father to the best of best and the worst of worst, he climbs up the highest and falls the lowest, whilst the horoscope of Krishna has been compared to the one of Christ. For the Christians it is said that they don't climb up so high and don't fall down so much, they still retain some purity of the intellect, whilst Indians become completely stone like intellects. So the soul of Brahma Baba is more powerful with respect to purity.
Now, PBKs, AS USUAL, just CONSIDER ONLY the tail of the 'elephant' and say B Baba is Krishna, comparable to the soul of Christ, and hence does not rise fully up and hence does not fall fully down. But, see the ridiculous, and double standards in points below.
2) PBKs themselves believe Mr Dixit is Conf. Aged Krishna. So, does not the same theory apply to him ALSO?
3) But, a great blow to PBKs is already specified in the Murli point - Error No. 18- viewtopic.php?f=39&t=2593&p=49631&hilit=accurate#p49631 which says- the first prince of Golden Age, Shri Krishna is the one who plays FULLY ACCURATE role, and his entrance in the womb is the REFERENCE point for the calculation of 5000-year period of the Cycle.
So- whatever PBKs may try to claim or prove by their ignorant or false, MISAPPROPRIATED & MISREPRESENTED theories, this single Murli point is SUFFICIENT to COMPLETELY DISCREDIT their false and malicious theories OUT-RIGHT.
4) Now- in the word BapDada - PBKs believe BAP = Shiv plus Dixit (of course, having absolutely no logic or support from any Murlis), and Dada = B Baba.
But, the Murli point says- BapDada are ALWAYS combined, or VERY CLOSE to each other. It is also clearly said- you may remember either ShivBaba or even Dada. - viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2624&p=50120&hilit=rahegee#p50120
So, without any doubt- Dada(B baba) is very next to Bap(Father). Even if PBKs add Mr Dixit into the word 'Bap' (by playing their role of HK hood, as exactly in previous Kalpa), still they CANNOT SEPARATE 'Dada' from 'Bap'.
Obviously, B Baba will get seat of at least the 2nd position (AS PER THEIR OWN DISTORTED VIEW, AS WELL) .
So, how can PBKs say- B Baba does not come in Rudramala or Vijaymala or the first 4.5 lakh category?
5) Again, regarding- "Bull controlling Shankar or viceversa"- it seems that PBKs believe/admit that MOST OF THE TIME in Conf. Age B baba would be more powerful than Mr Dixit.
So, if - during shooting period, this is the situation, then obviously, in the outer 5000-year drama, same thing should get replicated, is it not?
6) RIDICULOUSLY, PBKs say- Mr Dixit (and PBKs) would be having very good births throughout the Kalpa, and only in the last birth Mr Dixit would be poor, or something like that. So, how come they say- It is Mr Dixit ONLY who completely falls down? *
Now- if physical condition of poverty, etc of the last birth are the criteria to determine whether a soul is completely fallen/impure, then are not PBKs inadvertently saying one who is comparatively richer cannot gallop fast in effort? Are not they closing their door to them?
*- I am not against this. But, Mr Dixit tried to differentiate between himself and B Baba, so differently, and fell into his OWN pit - http://www.brahmakumarisforum.net/chat/ ... pati#p4070 [Baba is comparing impure ORDINARY CORPOREAL BODY of Brahma Baba in Conf Age with his OWN pure ROYAL CORPOREAL DEITY BODY as Krishna in Golden Age, hence says his body is ordinary, in this CONTEXT, but Mr. Dixit compared himself with Brahma Baba in Conf Age itself].
As Mr Dixit was poor in the last birth, he tried to compare this with B baba. But again falling into his OWN pit is seen here in error No. 05 - viewtopic.php?f=39&t=2593&p=48800&hilit=ordinary#p48800
7) By taking isolated Murli points and even comparing only to a little extent (in the horoscope issue stated above), PBKs are like inadvertently following persons who believe "Man = Monkey or ancestors of Man are monkeys".
Mostly- Mr. Dixit may also be saying- in the point No. 01, that- "It is BKs who have taken their Kingdom/Yagya in the beginning, and in the end (just to misinterpret the Murli points on rashi/horoscope), PBKs will take it back again". DO PBKs SAY SO?
But, Murli point clearly says- those children who had been in Yagya initially for 5, 10 yrs, etc., had left Yagya by getting influenced by Maya and had entered into stomach of python. So- even if PBKs say so, their claim would not have any value, as they themselves believe Sevakram and the other two souls themselves had left Yagya due to loss of faith.
Mr Dixit tried to provide entertainment to PBKs, like in 'harikathas' in 'Bhakti', where there is 'kanras', but absolutely there is neither involvement of God nor any PURE & ACCURATE Godly Knowledge in their false and malicious theories.
8) Moreover- regarding- Bull controlling Shankar, and vice versa- Guru of PBKs says- the entire Yagya was under control of PBK souls till 1947 - viewtopic.php?f=39&t=2099&p=50371&hilit=entire#p50371 , but, here, they say- Bull controls Shankar from 1969/1976. ARE NOT THEY AGAIN CONTRADICTING WITH THEMSELVES? How come PBK souls were able to control entire Yagya till 1947 then? [if they are more degraded]? :laugh:
But, a ridiculous or an OPEN SECRET here is- PBKs now inadvertently imply that from 1969, even AIVV Yagya/Chariot is under control of B Baba, by saying that 'Bull' controls 'Shankar'. And- we can see that it is true. PBKs still depend on Murlis and Vanis of BKWSU even after 1969. ;-)
9) So, once again we can clearly see here- by 'inviting' soul of DLR into himself, and calling Dada to B baba, Mr Dixit and PBKs committed IRREVERSIBLE spiritual suicide. They can never come out of this VICIOUS clutch or GRIP of Ravan or Maya. More they try to justify, more deeper they will keep on falling, just as when someone who falls into a SWAMP or BOG or QUAGMIRE - the MORE HE STRUGGLES THE MORE HE SINKS DEEPER DOWN!
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== There was the matter that the more powerful enters the less powerful one, (SPIRITUALLY, ONLY a MORE POWERFUL soul can RIDE or ENTER the CORPOREAL or SUBTLE body of another soul, who HAS ESSENTIALLY TO BE A WEAKER ONE, for such OCCURRENCE to take place - examples being REAL ShivBaba or God entering the body of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR; Soul of Christ entering the body of Jesus of Nazareth; etc. It is to be noted that the soul of Christ is APPARENTLY more powerful than the soul of Jesus, with reference to ONLY that period within the Cycle; but the soul of Jesus, who is one of the Narayans of Golden Age, is more powerful than the soul of Christ with reference to the ENTIRE CYCLE), but the PBKs say that the soul of Ram is more powerful, (the PBKs ONLY DELUSIVELY BELIEVE this to be so, ACCORDING to the MISAPPROPRIATED & MISREPRESENTED interpretations of the SMs and AVs - however, it is TRUE that he is APPARENTLY more powerful within Ravan Rajya or the SEMI-CIRCLE of the Cycle) but they also say that now the 'bull' is riding over 'Shankar' (if the 'bull' is considered to be the soul of DLR in his subtle body, who is SUPPOSED to be 'riding' over 'Shankar' or -Virendra Dev Dixit in his corporeal body, according to -Virendra Dev Dixit and the PBKs, then it naturally follows that the soul of DLR is MORE PURE, MORE INTELLIGENT & MORE POWERFUL than the soul of -Virendra Dev Dixit). The soul of Ram is human Father, (but the word 'Ram', used in the SMs, is referring to the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba or God, and NOT to the 'Ram', which is the designation of the HIGHEST SOVEREIGN of Silver Age), and there are all types of souls in the world, he is Father to the good and bad ones both, (the GOOD and the BAD ones EXIST ONLY in Ravan Rajya, and is a CONCEPT of Ravan Rajya, and NOT RamRajya, where ONLY GOOD ones exist. RamRajya is established by TRUE or REAL 'Ram', REAL ShivBaba or God, THROUGH REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is the first prince and first emperor of the Golden Age); ==