Conversation with Bapuji about UFO & ALIENS (spiritual side of Aliens world)

[bkshiva007]

“UNEXPLAINED UFO, ALIENS MYSTERIES” by Bapuji Dashrathbhai Patel

conversation with Bapuji about UFO & ALIENS (spiritual side of Aliens world)
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Anant: Param Shanti Bapu ji. Today we wish to know about Aliens about whom there are worldwide discussion, some good and some bad. Who are these Aliens? Where do they come from? Do they have a body of 5 elements or less? Do they come in their ship? Lot of negative things are said about the Aliens that they abduct humans and cattle. We wish to know from you all that is said about Aliens, through your Divine vision as well as according to what has been said in Indian scriptures (Shastras). Please shed some light on these and also on whether the Aliens are a threat to humans and our world.
Bapu Ji: Look, most of the programs about Aliens in the television project a negative image that they are here to destroy our world. Aliens have been coming to our Planet from the time Earth was created… from the time the Solar System was created. And who are these Aliens? First of all know that they are deities (Devtas). They come from other Solar systems, galaxies and other universes. And their UFO is know as Viman in our scriptures (Shastras). The Viman is made of three elements – Akash (ether), Vayu (air) and Agni (fire). I will give an example. Ravan (the demon King) had a Viman. It was not made of the physical elements. It was made of Vayu (air)... He used Mantras (Sacred Chants) received as boon from Shiva, and using this he invoked the Viman whenever needed. All those who sat in the Viman were also transformed into Vayu (air element). He had this power. And the Viman could be made small or big according to the number of people using it.After reaching destination, he used to dissolve it. The Viman appeared whenever Ravan invoked it. The Viman was made of Vayu (air) element that travelled at the speed of thoughts. I just gave an example.
Similarly, there is an episode in in the Devi Bagwat Puran, where the Brahma of our Brahmand (Solar system) got pride. One Maha Devi (Great Being) came in her Viman. It is known as UFO (now). She asked Brahma to sit and in a second took him to another Solar system. How much distance is there between two Solar systems? Today we know the nearest Solar system is 4.5 Light Years away. So, even if you travel at the speed of light, it will take 4 ½ years. Another Brahmand means Solar system…the span is 1 light year. The Maha Devi had such a Viman that reached another Solar system in a second. She told the Brahma (of our Brahmand): “Look, like you there are other Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar.” Then in one second she reached the third Solar system, and then the fourth Solar system…In this way she showed many Solar systems. The pride of Brahma came down on the realisation that there are several other Brahmas like him. So, what kind of vehicle the Maha Devi had with her? Because even speed of light is nothing since she covered 4 ½ lights years in just a second. We can call this the speed of Param Prakash (Supreme Light)... in fact Param, Param, Param Prakash ki gati (speed of Supreme Supreme Supreme Light). So, the vehicle that can travel at this speed is made of Param Tatwa (Supreme Light).
Beyond the gravitational pull of our Solar system, which is about 30 billion crore kilometres, we have the Subtle Region (Sukshma Jagat) where we have the Father of all religions (Dharam Pita). Above this plane, you have the high quality souls (Great Beings) in the Subtle Region who visit our planet in their vehicle. Their vehicle (UFO) is made of 3 elements. That is why their vehicles are mostly not seen. But, if the element is transformed from Supreme Fire element (Param Agni tatwa) to Fire element, it can be seen.
Now, why do they come? They want to see the progress of our planet. They want to make our planet better. Why do they ‘abduct’ the cows? Because, in our country (India) cow is being worshipped. It is considered to be Kamadenu (the cow of plenty). Kamadenu is for deities as well. It is a wish-fulfilling cow (Kamadenu). That is why they ‘abduct’ cows by converting them from a physical state (Vyakt) to a non-physical state (Avyakt) for the purpose of research to know what is so special about the cow. They are taken to the causal world, above the Subtle Region, to know why it is called Kamadenu and why they are worshipped. Similarly they take humans in their space ships to conduct research and do invention for the betterment of our world.
Anant: That means there is no negative intention in these?
Bapu Ji: Tell me one thing; their (Aliens) bodies are made of 3 elements… Supreme elements. If their body is made of supreme elements, their soul is also of Supreme elements. The one whose mind is of Supreme elements can only have positivity but no trace of negativity.
Anant: Bapu JI. You have said wonderful thing! Till now they have spread so much of negative news (about Aliens) in the world that people have the fear that tomorrow if we are attacked by UFO or the Aliens, the world will come to an end.
Bapu Ji: But, tell me one thing. Through the help of beings above who show me certain things from time to time, I have seen with my Divine Vision that (many) UFOs from far far Great Great Universes have landed in our Solar System Causal World…. Approximately 50 billion kilometres far from our sun. From far far places (universes) they have come. Even in the Subtle Region there are UFOs. So, why the UFOs come to the planet? They are all highly evolved beings who want to help us. People may not believe all these.
Anant: Whether people believe or not, this is the truth.
Bapu Ji: Let me explain. My mother used to experience Jogini’s (A Goddess) Divine Chariot coming to take her. She was told that she will be taken for a three days outing. During that period, her body will be physically ‘dead’ and we had to maintain her body. She will instruct us not to burn her body. She will say: “Jogini has come to take me in the Divine Chariot for an outing in the Spiritual World.” In three days she will return to her body. When the family people asked her why she alone could see the Chariot and not them, she will say: “Jogini is my mother and I am her daughter….I am aKuasi (daughter in Gujarati). I am her creation. Jogini is my mother. I am her Avatar. Because you do not have the Divine Vision, you cannot see the Divine Chariot.”
Anant: Bapu Ji. You have mentioned this in “The Om of all things” (Authored by Ruzbeh N. Bharucha), but now you have added few new things that are not mentioned there. Bapu Ji, we are talking about UFO, that is Unidentified Flying Objects, and would like to know more things about them in depth. Sometimes they are seen and sometimes they do not appear. What could be the reason for this?
Bapu Ji: See, if it (UFO) is made of Param Tatwa (Supreme Element), you cannot see it with these physical eyes. Can you see the ghost in three elements? Whether people believe it or not, there are ghosts. Isn’t it?
Anant: Surely.
Bapu Ji: Do people believe it?
Anant: Yes. May be not openly.
Bapu Ji: Can you see them?
Anant: Not really. But due to new technology, you get few photos but they could be fake.
Bapu Ji: In this way, the Aliens inside the UFOs made of 3 elements are from another world, from far off Great Universes.
Anant: Can we consider them to be pure Spiritual Beings?
Bapu Ji: They are a billion times purer compared to us. We are just like flies in front of them! They are so good and simply want to help you. Want to do something good to the world. They do research with Humans to find remedies for various diseases. They do experiment. They experiment why cows are worshipped.
Anant: In America, there is an place called Area 51 where there was an Alien Plane crash and no one is allowed to enter this place. America did not tell the world what had happened? But, we move on with the understanding that they (Aliens) are our friends and want to help us and save the world. If they want, they can destroy our world in 1 day with the technology they have. So, what you say is correct that they want to help us. But, scientists are telling that in 2020 we will meet them (Aliens)... they got their signal, but do not know their language. Please give your views on this.
Bapu Ji: Look, you mentioned that an UFO crashed in America, and that UFOs come and go. The truth is, before our deities were also coming. Brahma is said to be seated on the Hans (similar to swan). He keep roaming all over the world from Brahma Puri (the abode of Brahma). The Hans is the UFO for him, isn’t it?
Anant: Everyone had different vehicles!
Bapu Ji: Vishnu was sitting on Garudh (similar to Eagle), and this was his UFO! All the deities were coming. Even fairies from above (higher worlds) used to come to ponds (on earth) for bathing. The fairies (Apsaras) from Inder Lok (Kingdom of Indra) who came down for bathing fell in love with the men and had children and returned to Inder Lok. Our Shastras (scriptures) are absolute truth. But no one has the capacity to understand this truth. They have fallen so much that there is no power to understand all these. And, the instruments of science are made of physical elements and not made of Supreme Element (Param Tatwa).
We call UFO as Viman in our tradition. So, Viman has been here from ancient times and also countless Viman from far off places are in our Causal world. Even in our galaxy, we have many UFOs from far off places… The Masters of the Great Great Universe have come. They are all there with the UFO made of Param Tatwa (Supreme elements). Why have they come? They are telling that the dooms day is around and the Great Lord has come to the planet earth. They have come to see the Lord in their UFO. So, you can see the UFO at times… when the UFO gets converted into Fire element (Agni Tatwa)... Originally their UFOs are made in Param Tatwa.
Anant: When it is converted from Param Agni to Agni…
Bapu Ji: Yes, when the UFO approaches the planet… there is Agni Tatwa from a distance of about 20 billion kilometers (from earth). They have come from the causal world which is at a distance of about 50 billion kilometers. When the UFOs are converted into Fire elements are visible… not all of them.
The Aliens who have ‘fallen’ and become humans, their subtle body is converted into physical elements… Just like the deities who were coming down got converted into 5 elements and became humans. Just like Vishwamitra married the Apsara Menaka from the Inder Lok. She got converted from 3 elements to 5 elements, had children and returned to Inder Lok. The deities come in their vehicle and they are good (evolved) beings.
Anant: We made a video with the title ‘Magic of God’ which was a part of the “Ancient Alien Series’ in which you have spoken many such wonderful things. Bapu Ji we want to know more about the Aliens. Like you said their vehicle (Yaan) gets converted from Param Agni Tatwa (Supra Luminal Fire Element) to Fire Element. But it is reported that we have got their (crashed) vehicle (Yaan). Param Tatwa is not seen, this is OK. But when they come here, their ship is converted into 5 elements. Physically we get the pieces of iron with which their ship is made. They do lot of research on it but it is not disclosed to anyone. The truth (about Aliens) is not revealed. Do Aliens really want to contact us? Like we want to know about them.
Bapu Ji: They know everything about you and our Planet. All the great scientific research happening today, it is all due to the inspiration of the Aliens to the scientific community.
Anant: Bapu Ji, there are many videos that talk about the role of Aliens in America’s (scientific) advancement.
Bapu Ji: It is true. They do visit the restricted Area (51) you mentioned and support them in their scientific works.
Anant: When will they uplift India? This is the big question!
Bapu Ji: In television they were mentioning that the deities come and have relationship with women here in order to produce high quality human. They want to create intelligent humans. Before also the deities were having relationship with women.
Anant: This was mentioned in the Magic of God, where a King in London took help from a Magician by Merlin to develop London. Now, we want to know what will happen in future about UFO.
Bapu Ji: They will do good things for the world.
Anant: There is nothing to have any fear?
Bapu Ji: Nothing. Be fearless and live. If they come, welcome them. But they will just make a round and go.
Anant: Bapu Ji. I want to know this. We have about 700 to 800 crores (7 to 8 billion) people here. Is it possible that the Aliens have some karmic connections with us? Is it possible that their great great grand fathers had some link. Like you go back 50 generations or so and we had also Aliens who are now being visited. Is this possible?
Bapu Ji: The Aliens are the Forefathers of the humans today. Their (Aliens) great great grand creation (the humans today) is in pain. That is why they (the Aliens) are coming to see and help them. Aliens are the Great Great Grandfather of humans.
Anant: Many a times they show in the TV that they (Aliens) have done wrong, and so on…
Bapu Ji: This is wrong. Aliens are deities and they will never do wrong activities. If they do not have any negativity in their mind, from where will negativity come? Their body is made of Param Tatwa (Supra Luminal Element), and the Soul is made of Param Prakash (Supra Luminal Light). And they are Faristha (Great Beings/Angels) from the Causal world. They cannot even think anything wrong. These are low grade beings from the Subtle Region that do such negative actions.
Anant: In all the creation, who are the best, the Aliens or here on the Planet we have great human souls on the planet.
Bapu Ji: The human souls ar e like the insects in hell. When they see from above, the humans are like the insects of hell. They are in much of sufferings…. Ocean of suffering. The Causal word above is Heaven, Amar Log… the best of the best heaven… The Great Beings from Great Great Universes from as far as 1000 Light Years are there with their UFOs. Everyone’s eyes are on us, on our Brahmand (Solar system). They are all coming here. They want to make our world better and want to transform humans into Param Tatwa (Supra Luminal Element).
Anant: Is it possible that in future the Aliens come in front of us like humans to help us and communicate with us in our language?
Bapu JI: There is no need for them to learn our language. They can know all our languages in a second… they can understand crores (millions) of languages.
Ananat: The scientist are telling that in 2020 we will have contact with them…we shall communicate with them…
Bapu Ji: They are in contact with you, but you are unable to contact them. They know everything about you.. they have such (advanced) televisions to see what is happening here.
Anant: Bapu Ji, in our physical world, they believe only that which they see…
Bapu Ji: Science is having just physical instruments and gadgets. It is nothing compared to what you have in the subtle worlds. But the scientific community is a bit egotistic. They could not capture any souls till now. Were they able to capture ghost? So, they cannot understand the Subtle Region. They are quite rigid. Their mind is gross. They can only believe what they see. They do not understand the subtle or the spiritual world.
Anant: Bapu Ji, in the YouTube I searched for Indian Paranormal Society who have uploaded a video about the ‘energy’ near a Mall’s parking area. They do not say ghost, perhaps afraid… they have spoken to that ‘energy’... they said (to that energy): “If you go near this machine, it will glow. If you are a male it will become red… finally it was proved that there is energy there… you can call it ghost or whatever… So, as you are telling, if the Aliens also come here and help us, the world will progress much.
Bapu Ji: See, first of all you understand between the ghost and Aliens, there is a sea of difference.
Anant: Yes, please tell us about this. It is very important.
Bapu Ji: Ghosts are the human souls who live with vices, body-consciousness, have desires… they become ghost to fulfill their desires. They enter someone’s body to fulfill their desires… like that of drunkard to fulfill its desire for alcohol.
Anant: Yes, the proof of this is available in the Gita PRESS publication “Punar Janam Aur Parlok” (Past life and the Spiritual World)... Please talk about difference between them (ghosts) and Aliens.
Bapu Ji: Aliens are high quality Souls.
Anant: They are also Souls, isn’t it?
Bapu Ji: Look, what is the difference between Soul and the Supreme Soul? Aliens are Param Param Param Souls (Supreme Supreme Supreme Souls). Pure Souls. The Soul is of Param Prakash (Supra Luminal Light). The Soul of Humans are very impure (Tamopradhan). They have become absolutely third class. The body of the ghost is made of very Heavy (gross) 3 elements. Heavy Akash (ether), Heavy Vayu (air) and Heavy Agni (Fire) elements. Aliens body is of Supreme Elements.
Anant: Param Akash, Param Vayu, Param Agni…
Bapu Ji: Yes, they are in a million times high level. You cannot even imagine how great they are.. But the humans who are third class and who live with much negativity all through their life, when they die, they become ghost and do negative work... The ghosts want to degrade the world. The Aliens want to uplift the world.
Anant: Bapu Ji, the Souls on the Planet, the Souls who acquire a body of three elements after death, can they go to the world of Aliens or not?
Bapu Ji: It will take much time. Look, Aliens are of two types. One is from the Subtle Region and the other, from Causal world. When a human being dies, it gets trapped in Maya (illusion) and do not make an effort to go up. But some high quality Souls who have the desire to meet God, wanting to go to Param Dham (Supreme Abode) and have the knowledge can cross the subtle and causal world and reach Param Dham. The Aliens are in the Causal World, in the Param Tatwa (Supra Luminal Element) World. But it takes much time. And need much energy to reach there. But with effort one can reach. Nothing is impossible. There are souls in the Subtle Region who can help them. There are great souls, Dharam Gurus (Masters of different Religion) to help… But, there are so many layers in the Subtle Region, crossing all of them will take enormous time. In the Bhakti Marg (Path of Devotion), there is a mention of Bhu Lok, Bubur Lok, Swa Lok, Maha Lok, Jan Lok, Thap Lok…. After crossing these worlds, you will come to Brahma Puri, then Vishnu Puri and then Shiv Puri, and finally Param Dham. There are many layers (to cross).
Anant: The Aliens are above all these layers?
Bapu Ji: Aliens are in the Causal World… From 20 billion Light Years the Causal World begins… sorry, from 20 billion crores kilometers… So, you have to go 20 billion crores kilometers… how much power is needed in the Soul. And, first you have to transform (purify) your mind. Ghostly Souls cannot go there.. they cannot even cross 200 kilometers... even the gravity of the earth pulls them. Just as the 5 elements are under gravitational pull, the three elements are also influenced by Gravity…
Anant: Bapu Ji, I read a book “Life After Death”. It is written that we can go up to Mars or Saturn, but come back as we cannot stay there. We have to return within seconds.
Bapu Ji: The Soul that wrote this book (through the author) “Life After Death”... Souls can go up to one planet. But, the effect of gravity of the Sun is there on all planets, and hence the Souls cannot cross the gravity. Just as ghosts have to make extra effort to cross the gravity of our planet. Because, within the 3 elements, the Air Element pulls. Similarly, the gravitational Force of the Sun which is, in my estimate, extends up to 30 billion crores kilometers. It takes much time to cross this.
Anant: I am asking about a big subject… about Life on Mars… The whole world is searching for life on Mars. Were there humans with 5 elements living there?
Bapu Ji: First of all, who is Mars? Mars was actually the son of Planet Earth (Prithvi).
Anant: Yes, it is absolutely correct… As per the Indian scriptures (Shastras) it is correct.
Bapu Ji: So, only humans were living in Mars. There was a world of 5 elements there. But due to some reason it is finished.
Anant: Bapu Ji, if they dig and find human bodies or mummies, it will be a great wonder, isn’t it?
Bapu Ji: But the science does not have such a technology to do this. The Aliens who inspire and develop science, they are trying a lot.
Anant: Please tell us whether there were habitants in different planets that we identify (in our tradition) from Sunday to Monday.
Bapu Ji: Yes, there were… Before it were the planets in the Subtle Region… Such as Jupiter that was made of Vayu Tatwa (Air element). There were habitants of Air Element. The (Being of) Vauu (Air element) is Guru Dev, the Guru (Master) of Deities.
Anant: Does Aliens go there, to the planets?
Bapu Ji: Aliens means the Deities were residing there. Aliens means different category of Deities.
Anant: Are the Angels they talk about in Christianity are different?
Bapu Ji: They are Faristas (Angels) who have come from far off. The Angels they speak of in Christianly are Beings from 7 Universes away from ours.
Anant: But Christianity is just about 3000 or 4000 years old…
Bapu Ji: Jesus Christ is the Master of 7 Universes and he is here (on our Planet), together with millions of Angels.
Anant: But they are here for just about 3000 years. Then where was he? Because our Drama is for
Bapu Ji: He came to the Causal World first and then came to the Subtle Region. Then together with him, millions of souls took birth (on the planet). He is a messenger of God. He said ‘God is Light’. All the messengers who came… You can read Bible or Quran, all messengers said, “On the dooms day the Lord will be coming...” All messengers gave the message that God is coming.
Anant: Bapu Ji, let us come back to Aliens…You have shared many things, but we still have many questions which we shall ask you in the coming days, but just one more thing, are there beings in the sun also? And in the moon, are there beings residing?
Bapu Ji: See, in our Indian Scriptures (Shastras), the Being who makes the Sun is the Surya (Sun) Narayan deity. This being stays in the Sun. His body is made of Fire Element. Beings of 3 elements cannot stay there.
Anant: As of now, are there beings of Fire element there?
Bapu Ji: They can go. You mentioned about the book “Life after Death.” It is mentioned that you can move around the surface of Mercury. How much of Agni Tatwa is there, and how much would be the surface temperature?
Anant: Where, in the Sun?
Bapu Ji: In the Mercury…There also beings of 3 elements exists. Even in the Moon there are beings of the Subtle Region.
Anant: Bapu Ji, it is said that they have seen Aliens on moon about 50 or 60 years back. Afterwards they stopped going to the moon. Is this true?
Bapu Ji: Actually once I have seen in TV about NASA who took a spaceship to moon. They set their feet on the moon for the first time… The three who went…. They have seen the beings. In the moon also you have beings of 3 elements. The Moon Deity (Chandra Devta) made the moon.. he is the son-in-law of Daksh Prajapati. He had 27 wives. All are said in the Shastras (scriptures). Nothing is a lie. When he was there, the Moon Deity had a ship to visit our planet.
Anant: Yes, it is said that he was cursed and later he made a temple in Somnath and worshiped Shiva… All these stories are there…
Bapu Ji: Yes the Moon Deity made it (the temple). So, read the Indian Shastras and you will get all answers for UFOs. Everything about it is written in our Shastras. But, I can see all of these through my Divine Vision… current position of our Solar System, Galaxy and our Universe… I can see all…
Anant: OK Bapu Ji. Thank you very much, you have shared so many wonderful knowledge. In the coming days we will keep asking you about the all that is happening in the world. Param Shanti.

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[shiva]

This all are against ShivBaba muralis.

[shivsena]

Bapuji Dashrath Patel never quotes from Murlis-Vanis....he is just explaining imaginary spiritual knowledge without giving any proofs from Murlis-Vanis or Bhakti-marg scriptures.

Murli 22-8-16 says: ''हठयोग ऋषि तत्व को भगवान मानते हैं। राजयोग ऋषि भगवान को बाप मानते हैं। तत्व को याद करने से उन्हों के कोई पाप नहीं कटते हैं। तत्व के साथ योग लगाने से कोई बल नहीं मिलता है। ''

Sab BKs Paramdham-brahm-tatwa ko Yaad karte hai...aur sab PBKs 5-tatwa ke Virendra Dev Dixit ke sharir ko Yaad karte hai....lekin isse koi bal nahi milta aur naa hi vikarm vinash hote hai.

The above point clearly describes not to remember any tatwa in this brahmand, as there is no benefit in doing so.

[Jaydeepan]

Bapuji Dashrath Patel never quotes from Murlis-Vanis....he is just explaining imaginary spiritual knowledge without giving any proofs from Murlis-Vanis or Bhakti-marg scriptures.

That is not true Q

Murli 22-8-16 says: ''हठयोग ऋषि तत्व को भगवान मानते हैं। राजयोग ऋषि भगवान को बाप मानते हैं। तत्व को याद करने से उन्हों के कोई पाप नहीं कटते हैं। तत्व के साथ योग लगाने से कोई बल नहीं मिलता है। ''

Sab BKs Paramdham-brahm-tatwa ko Yaad karte hai...aur sab PBKs 5-tatwa ke Veerendra Dev Dixit ke sharir ko Yaad karte hai....lekin isse koi bal nahi milta aur naa hi vikarm vinash hote hai.

The above point clearly describes not to remember any tatwa in this brahmand, as there is no benefit in doing so.

That is a very silly statement, IMHO, you are not discussing behad ka thatwa or five worldly thatwa.

Sir, fist describe what is thatwa and then clarify what happened to the five elements. The wayu mundal is corrupt and it should be cleansed first.

[Jaydeepan]

Shivsena Bhai is too much Murli conscious, i guess.