You have rightly pointed out that before becoming a brahmin everyone is Shudra. When the Supreme Soul comes all are shudras. He takes shudras and makes them into brahmins. This is the first machinery. Then he teaches the brahmins to make them deities – this is the second machinery.
In the outside world it is only the brahmins who can wear yagyopavit. Not the shudras. This is not there in our knowledge. The first birth is our brahmin birth, the birth through Brahma, is in fact a birth through the same Father, but because it is through the corporeal personality of Brahma, so it can be said to be a corporeal birth. Then through the incorporeal personality of Shankar we become subtle. Mothers is corporeal whilst Father is subtle. The incorporeal stage is there to be achieved in our body and the change from a man to Narayan is to happen in the same birth. Baba gives the example of the incorporeal stage by making someone equal to himself in front of the children, so that they could follow that. It is said in the Murli that we should achieve the stage like that of Shankar. What does it mean? To leave the body? No, it means to become subtle whilst in the body.
The personalities from the beginning were not recognized. Whatever knowledge was given there in the beginning it reaches us through the medium of Brahma and Saraswati. The Supreme Soul also enters Brahma and plays part of a mother and his role is recognized first. Then through that mother through the Murli there are hints about the revelation of the Father. It is the mother who introduces the Father to the child.
So the second machinery takes the Brahmins who were prepared through Brahma and makes them into deities. Through Brahma there are brahmins. Deities will be made through a deity and the greatest deity is Shankar.
The name Sevakram was wrongly taken by some PBKs. Baba never uses it. He speaks about the brother in law of Brahma Baba. This personality is different to Sevakram and for him we don't have the date of birth and death.
And- PBK Jagadamba Kamala Devi developed interest to Kaliyugi world even after the second spiritual birth!
Baba has said that if one becomes a BK than that's it. He will certainly come again. There is only one shop, where is he going to go? So if someone leaves the knowledge he will again return for sure and one day everyone will become children of Brahma. I don't know what it is there so much that you have against our Jagadamba leading a lokik life. Baba has said that to marry after the knowledge and through following a lotus like life one can attain a very high status. It is all a matter of the mind, the soul. If the effort was to follow celibacy, sanyasis follow celibacy for longest period. They should attain highest status. But as Baba has said about the sanyasis that they develop arrogance and false pride based on their false purity, in the same way some brahmins develop false pride based on their celibacy and show off with that. They don't say Shivoham from their mouth, but through their acts they show they are the ones to bring benefit to the world, no one else in this world can bring benefit. And such souls having seated on their false throne of their false self-respect give judgement to others and pass remarks of criticism and see others with low vision. Who cares. What is important is to follow Shrimat and attain a high position in the heart and eyes of ShivBaba.
69) The three thread means symbol of purity in thoughts, speech and action.
I haven't heard the clarification that yagyopavit means purity of mind, words and actions in the Murli. It is not some clarification Baba has given. This must be some false clarification from the false world or the manmat of some BK.
-----Initially, it was Premkanta who had been in their Trimurti as main Brahma/Jagadamba. In 1983, KD replaced her.
I don't have information about Premkata being Jagadamba. Please, tell where do you have this information from and what is exactly the information you have received.
Brother, I assure you that by posting in red and in big letters, whatever you say does not have more power or meaning. On the contrary, it acts repulsing. It is a commonly accepted standard that writing in big or capital letters is equal to shouting in the net. Why do you like to make the impression on us as if you are shouting? Please, be humble and modest enough to write in a normal, simple letters. It is important what you will say, people will read it anyway. Do you not trust the ability of people to read and decide, so that you have to underline for them like to some children. I don't know. To me these big, red letters are gross.
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When Supreme Soul Shiva comes all are shudras. When He enters Brahma Baba, He changes shudras into Brahmins, by giving them a Spiritual Re-Birth, THROUGH Brahma Baba; and THEN CONTINUES to TEACH & TRAIN these Brahmins in order to change them into Deities -
ALSO THROUGH Brahma Baba. BOTH these machineries
CONTINUE SIMULTANEOUSLY,
THROUGH His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR -
FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969;
and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age.
It is NOT THAT ALL the shudras are FIRST changed into Brahmins through Brahma Baba, ONLY AFTER WHICH ALL such Brahmins are THEN changed into Deities, through ANOTHER embodied soul. Brahmins CONTINUE to take Spiritual Re-Birth, EVEN AFTER Brahma Baba LEAVES his corporeal body and becomes Avyakt - through the CLEAR Re-Cognition of his role as the REAL PrajaPita, through his corporeal body, UNTIL 1969; and through the CLEAR REAL-EYEsation of his role as the REAL Adi Dev, through his subtle body, AFTER 1969; and as a result of this CLEAR Re-Cognition & REAL-EYEsation, through the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, they become the TRUE ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma –
REGARDLESS of whether Brahma Baba is STILL within a corporeal body or NOT!
The ‘Parlokik’ Father, Shiva, introduces the ‘Alokik’ Mother, Brahma Baba, to the Righteous Children, through the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, spoken through Brahma Baba.
The ‘Alokik’ Mother, Brahma Baba, THEN CONTINUES to give the introduction of the ‘Parlokik’ Father, Shiva, to ALL NEW ASPIRANTS of Knowledge.
The ‘Parlokik’ Father, Shiva THEN CLARIFIES that Brahma Baba is,
BOTH, the ‘Alokik’ Mother,
AS WELL AS, the ‘Alokik’ Father of the Righteous Children, and since he is in a male corporeal body, the role of the ‘Alokik’ Mother is THEN delegated to his Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’, Saraswati Mama, who THEN CONTINUES to give the introduction of,
BOTH, the ‘Parlokik’ Father, Shiva,
AS WELL AS, the ‘Alokik’ Father, Brahma Baba, to ALL NEW ASPIRANTS of Knowledge.
Hence, the question of giving the introduction of ANOTHER embodied soul, as the ‘Alokik’ Father of the Righteous Children,
DOES NOT ARISE, AT ALL! Why would the Righteous Children, who CLEARLY Re-Cognize, REAL-EYEs & EXPERIENCE Brahma Baba to be their REAL ‘Alokik’ Father & Saraswati Mama to be their REAL ‘Alokik’ Mother, and who CONTINUE to receive Spiritual support, succour, and sustenance from REAL ShivBaba, EVEN AFTER their ‘Alokik’ Parents leave their corporeal bodies, need to consider ANOTHER embodied soul, as their ‘Alokik’ Father -
PARTICULARLY when they become FULLY AWARE that SUCH embodied soul is just a Spiritual GIGOLO, who is ONLY involved in OPPOSING, DEFAMING, INSULTING & MOCKING God, and in carrying out the ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – when, they themselves are involved in the establishment of RamRajya???
What is important to the Righteous Children is to follow TRUE Shrimat, and attain a high position in the Heart and Eyes of
REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God.
Whereas, what is important to the BLIND Unrighteous children is to follow Ravanmat or Mayavimat,
while DELUSIVELY CONSIDERING same to be TRUE Shrimat of God, and attain a high position in the heart and eyes of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan,
-Virendra Dev Dixit, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Prajapita’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!
Regarding the use of lettering in Red, Capital, etc., viewers may like to review point 2, of the relevant post with regard to same, in link -
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2597&start=15#p49888
Individuals with GROSS intellects may find them gross, since they are UNABLE to receive, or even see, ANY benefit in same, which they may even interpret with a NEGATIVE frame of mind, based on the common belief of many other individuals with a similar bent of mind. But individuals with SUBTLE intellects would be ABLE to perceive and derive subtle benefit from same, which are particularly designed for that specific purpose.