Prashna No.90: http://www.xbkchat.com par kisi ex-BK nay ek topic shuru kiya tha ki kya Sanskrit say pehley Hindi bhasha prachalit thee. Unhonay kaha hai ki Baba kee murliyon ke anusaar swarga ki bhasha Hindi thi. Lekin history yah kahti hai ki Hindi ka vikaas Sanskrit ke baad hua hai. Sanskrit say pehley ya uskay samkaaleen bhasha thi Pali, Brahmi ityaadi.
Advance knowledge is baarey may kya kahta hai?
Uttar: sthool Satyug me ishare ki bhasha hoti hai, Hindi se milti julti bhasha hoti hai. Lekin Sanskrit nehi hoti hai.
Vaastav me prachin bhasha Hindi hai na ki Sanskrit, Sanskrit toh Shankaracharya ke baad nikli hai. Jo aatey hai waha aapni bhasha chalate hain . --- mu 21-9-71, p-2
Satyug me sanskrit nehi hoti. Jo-jo jaisa raja hota hai waha apni bhasha chalata hain . Sanskrit bhasha koi rajaon ki nehi hai. yeh sanyasi logon sunate hai ... ab Baba koi Sanskrit thode hi sikhlate hain. --- mu 10-10-75 p-2
Question No.90: Someone had started a topic on http://www.xbkchat.com regarding the prevalence of Hindi before Sanskrit. He has said that as per the Murlis of Baba the language of heaven was Hindi. But the history says that Hindi has developed after Sanskrit. The language prior to/ contemporary of Sanskrit was Pali, Brahmi etc. What does the advance knowledge say about this?
Answer: In the actual Golden Age there is sign language, there is a language which resembles Hindi. But it will not be Sanskrit.
Actually, the ancient language is Hindi and not Sanskrit. Sanskrit has developed after Shankaracharya. Whoever comes develops his own language. (Murli dated 21.9.71, pg.2)
Sanskrit will not be in usage in the Golden Age. As the king, so will be the language promoted by him. Sanskrit is not a language of kings. These Sanyasis speak in that language. Now, does Baba teach Sanskrit? - (Murli dated 10.10.75, pg.2)
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Prashna No.91: Brahman bachhey kaun-kaun say dhandhey kar saktey hain? Kya vay sharaab, cigarette aadi bechney ka kaam kar saktey hain?
Uttar: Sharaab ka dhanda karnaa nahee chaahiye . Murli may kaha hai - dhanda aadi bhi koi royal hota hai, koi ka chhi-chhi dhanda hota hai. Sharaab bechtey hain. Yah dhanda toh bahut kharaab hai. Sharaab sab vikaron ko khinchti hai. Kisi ko sharaabi banana yah dhanda accha nahee. Baap raay dengey yukti say yah dhanda change kar lo. Nahee toh oonch pad paa nahee sakengey. Mu 28-10-89
Murli may kahaa hai yahaan tum aatey ho manushya say devtaa ban-ney. Devtaeyen kabhi ashudh khan-paan, beedi aadi nahee peetey hain.
Jo cheez devi-devtaon ko Bhog lagaaya nahee jaataa hai, ham bech kaise saktey hain. Ham doosron ko bhi devi-devtaa banaanaa chaahtey hain.
Prashna No.92: Baba nay kaha hai ki yadi koi sainik apney afsar ke aadesh par kisi ko goli maarta hai toh uska paap nahee banega. Kya yah sahee hai?
Uttar: Murli may kahaa hai "ladaai kay maidaan may toh khushi say jaanaa hai. Karma toh karnaa hee hai. Goli marnaa karma hai naa. Desh kay bachaav kay liye sab kuch karnaa padtaa hai.- Murli 22-8-75
2-Kisi ko dukh na dena hai. Ladaai waley dukh dete hain na. Parantu yah toh service kertey hain. Agar dushmaon ko maarey hee nahee toh sab chadhaai kar aa javengey.- Murli 22-8-75
3-Samjho tum ko military may bhaashan krnaa padtaa hai. Toh aisa nahee samjhaanaa hai ki maarnaa nahee hai. Maro beshak, kyunki duty hai. Shiv baba ki Yaad may rahkar service karo toh swarg may chaley jaayengey. - Murli 9-4-87
4-Police waley likhtey hain, Baba aaj kisi ko mara. Baba kahdetey hain bhal apni duty bajaao. Nahee toh chor sach nehi batlayega. Baap kay paas military wale aate hain, unko samjhaatey thay ladnaa toh padegaa hee. Nahee toh shahar kee rakshaa kaun karengey. Tum ko yah service karnee hee hai. Parantu jab maro toh ShivBaba ko Yaad karo ... sharir nirvaah arth kaam toh karnaa hee hai. ... Bap kahtey hain nehi toh roti nahee milegi. Bhaarat kee sambhaal kaun karegaa. ShivBaba ko Yaad kar maaraa to yah service kee. Ismay koi paap nahee. Har ek ko apney shahar ki sambhaal karnee hee hai. Nahee toh India ko sab kha jaaye. mu 18-4-76
Prashna No.93: Jaisey Germany ke sainikon nay laakhon yahoodiyon ko Hitler ke kahney par maut ke ghaat utaar diya toh kya un sainikon ka koi paap nahee banega? Aur kya aisey dictator (tanashah) ke adheen kaam karney kaa kaaran unkay burey karma nahee hain?
Uttar: Sena ka sipaahi senaanayak ki baat man-ney kay liye baadhya hai. Nahee toh usay maar diyaa jaayega. Lekin agar senapati galat decision leta hai to uskay ooper paap chadhega.
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Question No.91: Which are the occupations that the Brahmin children can do? Can they sell liquor, cigarettes etc.?
Ans: One should not do the business of liquor. It has been said in the Murli – “The occupations etc. are also sometimes royal and the occupations of some are dirty. They sell liquor. This occupation is very bad. Liquor attracts all vices. It is not good to make someone a drunkard. The Father would advice that you should change this occupation tactfully. Otherwise, one would not be able to achieve a high post.” – Murli dated 28.10.89
It has been said in the Murli that here you come to get transformed from human beings to deities. Deities never consume impure food, beedi (tobacco) etc. How can we sell the things that are not offered to the deities? We want to make others also deities.
Question No.92: Baba has said that if any soldier shoots at someone on the orders of his Officer, then he would not accrue any sin. Is it correct?
Ans: It has been said in the Murli that “One must go to the battlefield happily. One must perform one’s duty. Shooting is a duty, isn’t it? One has to do everything to save one’s nation.” – Murli dated 22.8.75.
2. “One must not cause sorrows to anyone. The fighters (i.e. soldiers) cause sorrows, don’t they? But they perform their duty. If they do not kill the enemies, then everyone would lay siege and enter.” – Murli dated.22.8.75.
3. “Suppose you have to deliver lectures in the military. Then do not explain that one must not kill. You may of course kill because it is your duty. If you remain in ShivBaba’s remembrance and do service then you would go to heaven.” Murli dated 9.4.87.
4. “Children belonging to the Police Department write – Baba, today I beat someone. Baba would say – you may perform your duty. Otherwise the thief would not tell the truth. Military people come to Baba. It used to be explained to them that they would certainly have to fight. Otherwise who would defend the city? You have to do this service. But when you kill, remember ShivBaba ... One has to perform actions for one’s livelihood, isn’t it? ... The Father says – Otherwise you would not get roti (i.e. food). Who would take care of India? If you kill (the enemy etc.) while being in remembrance then it is like doing service. One would not accrue any sin in it. Everyone has to definitely defend his city. Otherwise everyone would devour India.” – Murli dated 18.04.76.
Question No.93: For example, the soldiers of Germany killed lakhs of Jews on the orders of Hitler. So will those soldiers accrue any sin? And are their sins not the reason for having to work under such a dictator?
Ans: A soldier of an Army is duty-bound to obey the orders of the Commander. Otherwise he would get killed. But if the Commander takes a wrong decision, then its sin would accrue to him.
Uttar: Sharaab ka dhanda karnaa nahee chaahiye . Murli may kaha hai - dhanda aadi bhi koi royal hota hai, koi ka chhi-chhi dhanda hota hai. Sharaab bechtey hain. Yah dhanda toh bahut kharaab hai. Sharaab sab vikaron ko khinchti hai. Kisi ko sharaabi banana yah dhanda accha nahee. Baap raay dengey yukti say yah dhanda change kar lo. Nahee toh oonch pad paa nahee sakengey. Mu 28-10-89
Murli may kahaa hai yahaan tum aatey ho manushya say devtaa ban-ney. Devtaeyen kabhi ashudh khan-paan, beedi aadi nahee peetey hain.
Jo cheez devi-devtaon ko Bhog lagaaya nahee jaataa hai, ham bech kaise saktey hain. Ham doosron ko bhi devi-devtaa banaanaa chaahtey hain.
Prashna No.92: Baba nay kaha hai ki yadi koi sainik apney afsar ke aadesh par kisi ko goli maarta hai toh uska paap nahee banega. Kya yah sahee hai?
Uttar: Murli may kahaa hai "ladaai kay maidaan may toh khushi say jaanaa hai. Karma toh karnaa hee hai. Goli marnaa karma hai naa. Desh kay bachaav kay liye sab kuch karnaa padtaa hai.- Murli 22-8-75
2-Kisi ko dukh na dena hai. Ladaai waley dukh dete hain na. Parantu yah toh service kertey hain. Agar dushmaon ko maarey hee nahee toh sab chadhaai kar aa javengey.- Murli 22-8-75
3-Samjho tum ko military may bhaashan krnaa padtaa hai. Toh aisa nahee samjhaanaa hai ki maarnaa nahee hai. Maro beshak, kyunki duty hai. Shiv baba ki Yaad may rahkar service karo toh swarg may chaley jaayengey. - Murli 9-4-87
4-Police waley likhtey hain, Baba aaj kisi ko mara. Baba kahdetey hain bhal apni duty bajaao. Nahee toh chor sach nehi batlayega. Baap kay paas military wale aate hain, unko samjhaatey thay ladnaa toh padegaa hee. Nahee toh shahar kee rakshaa kaun karengey. Tum ko yah service karnee hee hai. Parantu jab maro toh ShivBaba ko Yaad karo ... sharir nirvaah arth kaam toh karnaa hee hai. ... Bap kahtey hain nehi toh roti nahee milegi. Bhaarat kee sambhaal kaun karegaa. ShivBaba ko Yaad kar maaraa to yah service kee. Ismay koi paap nahee. Har ek ko apney shahar ki sambhaal karnee hee hai. Nahee toh India ko sab kha jaaye. mu 18-4-76
Prashna No.93: Jaisey Germany ke sainikon nay laakhon yahoodiyon ko Hitler ke kahney par maut ke ghaat utaar diya toh kya un sainikon ka koi paap nahee banega? Aur kya aisey dictator (tanashah) ke adheen kaam karney kaa kaaran unkay burey karma nahee hain?
Uttar: Sena ka sipaahi senaanayak ki baat man-ney kay liye baadhya hai. Nahee toh usay maar diyaa jaayega. Lekin agar senapati galat decision leta hai to uskay ooper paap chadhega.
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Question No.91: Which are the occupations that the Brahmin children can do? Can they sell liquor, cigarettes etc.?
Ans: One should not do the business of liquor. It has been said in the Murli – “The occupations etc. are also sometimes royal and the occupations of some are dirty. They sell liquor. This occupation is very bad. Liquor attracts all vices. It is not good to make someone a drunkard. The Father would advice that you should change this occupation tactfully. Otherwise, one would not be able to achieve a high post.” – Murli dated 28.10.89
It has been said in the Murli that here you come to get transformed from human beings to deities. Deities never consume impure food, beedi (tobacco) etc. How can we sell the things that are not offered to the deities? We want to make others also deities.
Question No.92: Baba has said that if any soldier shoots at someone on the orders of his Officer, then he would not accrue any sin. Is it correct?
Ans: It has been said in the Murli that “One must go to the battlefield happily. One must perform one’s duty. Shooting is a duty, isn’t it? One has to do everything to save one’s nation.” – Murli dated 22.8.75.
2. “One must not cause sorrows to anyone. The fighters (i.e. soldiers) cause sorrows, don’t they? But they perform their duty. If they do not kill the enemies, then everyone would lay siege and enter.” – Murli dated.22.8.75.
3. “Suppose you have to deliver lectures in the military. Then do not explain that one must not kill. You may of course kill because it is your duty. If you remain in ShivBaba’s remembrance and do service then you would go to heaven.” Murli dated 9.4.87.
4. “Children belonging to the Police Department write – Baba, today I beat someone. Baba would say – you may perform your duty. Otherwise the thief would not tell the truth. Military people come to Baba. It used to be explained to them that they would certainly have to fight. Otherwise who would defend the city? You have to do this service. But when you kill, remember ShivBaba ... One has to perform actions for one’s livelihood, isn’t it? ... The Father says – Otherwise you would not get roti (i.e. food). Who would take care of India? If you kill (the enemy etc.) while being in remembrance then it is like doing service. One would not accrue any sin in it. Everyone has to definitely defend his city. Otherwise everyone would devour India.” – Murli dated 18.04.76.
Question No.93: For example, the soldiers of Germany killed lakhs of Jews on the orders of Hitler. So will those soldiers accrue any sin? And are their sins not the reason for having to work under such a dictator?
Ans: A soldier of an Army is duty-bound to obey the orders of the Commander. Otherwise he would get killed. But if the Commander takes a wrong decision, then its sin would accrue to him.
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Prashna No.94: Kya Dashrath Bhai (Aryasamajiyon ke mukhiya ke roop may) 108 ki mala may aa saktey hain?
Uttar: Avykta Vani may kah diya " Result out BapDada mukh dwara nahi karenge ya koi kagaj ya board par number nahi likhenge. Lekin result out kaise hogi? - Aap swayam hi swayam ko apni yogyataon pramaan apney-apney nischit number kay yogya samjhenge aur siddh karenge. Automatically unkay mukh say swayam kay prati final result kay number na sochte huye bhi unkay mukh say sunaai dengey aur chalan say bhi dikhayi denge. Arthaat Brahman parivaar sish mahal ban jaavega . AV 27-5-74
Q.No.94: Can Dashrath Bhai (as the head of Aryasamajis) come in 108 rosary bead?
Ans: It has been said in the Avyakt Vani, "BapDada would neither give out the result through his mouth nor would he write the number on the board. But how would the result come out (i.e. become known to everyone)? - You yourself would consider yourself to be worthy of your fixed number as per your capabilities and also prove it. The number of the final result would be heard from their mouth automatically without even thinking about it and it would also be visible from their actions, i.e. the Brahmin family would become a sheeshmahal (a palace of mirrors )- AV-27.5.74
Uttar: Avykta Vani may kah diya " Result out BapDada mukh dwara nahi karenge ya koi kagaj ya board par number nahi likhenge. Lekin result out kaise hogi? - Aap swayam hi swayam ko apni yogyataon pramaan apney-apney nischit number kay yogya samjhenge aur siddh karenge. Automatically unkay mukh say swayam kay prati final result kay number na sochte huye bhi unkay mukh say sunaai dengey aur chalan say bhi dikhayi denge. Arthaat Brahman parivaar sish mahal ban jaavega . AV 27-5-74
Q.No.94: Can Dashrath Bhai (as the head of Aryasamajis) come in 108 rosary bead?
Ans: It has been said in the Avyakt Vani, "BapDada would neither give out the result through his mouth nor would he write the number on the board. But how would the result come out (i.e. become known to everyone)? - You yourself would consider yourself to be worthy of your fixed number as per your capabilities and also prove it. The number of the final result would be heard from their mouth automatically without even thinking about it and it would also be visible from their actions, i.e. the Brahmin family would become a sheeshmahal (a palace of mirrors )- AV-27.5.74
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Prashna No.95: Kya rudra mala ke 108 mankon ke alava bhi Supreme Soul kisi mein pravesh karta hai ?
Uttar: Mukarar roop me to ek me hi pravesh kerta hai , baki praveshta ki proof praman nehi.
Prashna No.96: Panchaanan (5 mukh wala) Brahma bhi dikhaya jata hai. Yah kis-kis ka yaadgaar hai?
Uttar: Aadi ki 2 aatmayen, ant may vahee Jagadamba-Jagatpita, beech may Dada Lekhraj.
Prashna No.97: Kya Vaishnavi Devi mein Supreme Soul pravesh karta hai ?
Uttar: Nahee.
Prashna No.98: Jaisey Sangamyugi Lakshmi-Narayan bina drishti kay len-den kay hi pavitrataa kay bal say hi Radha-Krishna jaisey bachhon ko janma dengey, kya waise hi baaki 4.5 lakh Sangamyugi devi-devtaaen bhi apne bachoon ko janm deingey?
Uttar: Haan, ji.
Prashna No.99: Kya Satyug aur Tretayug mein purushoon mein veerya aur striyoon mein raj hoga?
Uttar:Hoga, lekin oordhvareta hoga.
Prashna No.100: Satyug may mukh kay pyaar say santaan paida hongi. Kya mukh kay pyaar ka matlab chumban say hai?
Uttar: Haan, ji.
Prashna No.101: lokik padhaai ko Baba dogly padhaai kyon kahte hain?
Uttar: Kyonki us say vyabhichaari bantey hain.
Prashna No.102: Kya paid-poudhon mein bhi atma hoti hai? Agar haan to paid kay kis hissay mein hoti hai?
Uttar: haan, ji, jadatwamayi aatma hoti hai. Beej mein.
Prashna No.103: Mahabharat mein dikhaya gaya hai ki Abhimanyu nay chakravyuh toda, lekin phir khud usme phas gaya. Iska Gyan mein kya arth hai?
Uttar: Kumar himmat to kartey hain shaadi karkey pavitra rahney kee lekin (safaltapoorvak) nikal nahee paatey, pavitra nahi rah paatey.
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Question No.95: Does the Supreme Soul enter into any one else other than the beads of the rosary of Rudra?
Ans: In a permanent form He enters into ‘one’ only, but there are no proofs for this entering (of Supreme Soul into ‘one’).
Question No.96: Panchaanan (five-headed) Brahma is also shown. Whose memorial is this?
Ans:. 2 souls in the beginning (of the Yagya); the same Jagdamba-Jagatpita (World Mother and World Father) in the end. And Dada Lekhraj in the middle.
Question No.97: Does the Supreme Soul enter into Vaishnavi Devi?
Ans: No.
Question No.98: Just as the Confluence-Aged Lakshmi & Narayan give birth to children like Radha and Krishna without the exchange of glances (drishti) and through the power of purity only, would the remaining 4.5 lakh Confluence-Aged deities also give birth to their children?
Ans: Yes.
Question No.99: Would there be sperm (veerya) in the men and ovum (raj) in the women in the Golden Age?
Ans: Yes, it would be present, but it would be in an ascending state.
Question No.100: Children would be born through the oral/facial love in the Golden Age. Does oral love means kissing?
Ans: Yes.
Question No.101: Why does Baba term the worldly education as a dogly education?
Ans: Because it makes one adulterous.
Question No.102: Do trees and plants have souls? If yes, then, in which part (of the tree/plant)?
Ans: Yes, they have souls, but they are inert. In the seeds.
Question No.103: It has been shown in the Mahabharata epic that Abhimanyu could enter into the Chakravyuh (a military formation), but then he got entangled in it. What is its meaning as per the knowledge?
Ans: Kumars display the courage to marry and remain pure, but they are not able to emerge (successfully) from it; they are unable to remain pure.
Uttar: Mukarar roop me to ek me hi pravesh kerta hai , baki praveshta ki proof praman nehi.
Prashna No.96: Panchaanan (5 mukh wala) Brahma bhi dikhaya jata hai. Yah kis-kis ka yaadgaar hai?
Uttar: Aadi ki 2 aatmayen, ant may vahee Jagadamba-Jagatpita, beech may Dada Lekhraj.
Prashna No.97: Kya Vaishnavi Devi mein Supreme Soul pravesh karta hai ?
Uttar: Nahee.
Prashna No.98: Jaisey Sangamyugi Lakshmi-Narayan bina drishti kay len-den kay hi pavitrataa kay bal say hi Radha-Krishna jaisey bachhon ko janma dengey, kya waise hi baaki 4.5 lakh Sangamyugi devi-devtaaen bhi apne bachoon ko janm deingey?
Uttar: Haan, ji.
Prashna No.99: Kya Satyug aur Tretayug mein purushoon mein veerya aur striyoon mein raj hoga?
Uttar:Hoga, lekin oordhvareta hoga.
Prashna No.100: Satyug may mukh kay pyaar say santaan paida hongi. Kya mukh kay pyaar ka matlab chumban say hai?
Uttar: Haan, ji.
Prashna No.101: lokik padhaai ko Baba dogly padhaai kyon kahte hain?
Uttar: Kyonki us say vyabhichaari bantey hain.
Prashna No.102: Kya paid-poudhon mein bhi atma hoti hai? Agar haan to paid kay kis hissay mein hoti hai?
Uttar: haan, ji, jadatwamayi aatma hoti hai. Beej mein.
Prashna No.103: Mahabharat mein dikhaya gaya hai ki Abhimanyu nay chakravyuh toda, lekin phir khud usme phas gaya. Iska Gyan mein kya arth hai?
Uttar: Kumar himmat to kartey hain shaadi karkey pavitra rahney kee lekin (safaltapoorvak) nikal nahee paatey, pavitra nahi rah paatey.
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Question No.95: Does the Supreme Soul enter into any one else other than the beads of the rosary of Rudra?
Ans: In a permanent form He enters into ‘one’ only, but there are no proofs for this entering (of Supreme Soul into ‘one’).
Question No.96: Panchaanan (five-headed) Brahma is also shown. Whose memorial is this?
Ans:. 2 souls in the beginning (of the Yagya); the same Jagdamba-Jagatpita (World Mother and World Father) in the end. And Dada Lekhraj in the middle.
Question No.97: Does the Supreme Soul enter into Vaishnavi Devi?
Ans: No.
Question No.98: Just as the Confluence-Aged Lakshmi & Narayan give birth to children like Radha and Krishna without the exchange of glances (drishti) and through the power of purity only, would the remaining 4.5 lakh Confluence-Aged deities also give birth to their children?
Ans: Yes.
Question No.99: Would there be sperm (veerya) in the men and ovum (raj) in the women in the Golden Age?
Ans: Yes, it would be present, but it would be in an ascending state.
Question No.100: Children would be born through the oral/facial love in the Golden Age. Does oral love means kissing?
Ans: Yes.
Question No.101: Why does Baba term the worldly education as a dogly education?
Ans: Because it makes one adulterous.
Question No.102: Do trees and plants have souls? If yes, then, in which part (of the tree/plant)?
Ans: Yes, they have souls, but they are inert. In the seeds.
Question No.103: It has been shown in the Mahabharata epic that Abhimanyu could enter into the Chakravyuh (a military formation), but then he got entangled in it. What is its meaning as per the knowledge?
Ans: Kumars display the courage to marry and remain pure, but they are not able to emerge (successfully) from it; they are unable to remain pure.
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Prashna No.104: Kya topmost 8 aatmaen 8 dharmon ki aatmaen arthaat Ashta Ratan hain ya fir Ashta Dev?
Uttar: 8 shrestha aatmayen shreshtha kul say niklenge, shreshtha tey shrestha toh suryavanshi hain. Shreshtha aatmayen ashta dev hi hain. Astharatan toh 8 dharm kay heads hain.
Question No.104: Are the topmost 8 souls the souls belonging to 8 religions, i.e. 8 gems or the 8 deities?
Ans: 8 righteous souls would emerge from the righteous clans. The most righteous ones are those belonging to the Sun Dynasty. The 8 deities alone are the righteous souls. The 8 gems are the heads of the 8 religions.
Uttar: 8 shrestha aatmayen shreshtha kul say niklenge, shreshtha tey shrestha toh suryavanshi hain. Shreshtha aatmayen ashta dev hi hain. Astharatan toh 8 dharm kay heads hain.
Question No.104: Are the topmost 8 souls the souls belonging to 8 religions, i.e. 8 gems or the 8 deities?
Ans: 8 righteous souls would emerge from the righteous clans. The most righteous ones are those belonging to the Sun Dynasty. The 8 deities alone are the righteous souls. The 8 gems are the heads of the 8 religions.
sweeping away..
I recently heard that when our spiritual mother (Kamala Mataji) returns she will be holding one broom in each hand and sweeping Baba’s house.
My questions to Baba (Virendra Dev Dixit) or to anyone that can give me a better view ...
Surya
My questions to Baba (Virendra Dev Dixit) or to anyone that can give me a better view ...
- 1) Why will she be holding one broom in each hand? What is the significance of this?
2) What will she be sweeping? (Bad PBKs out of Baba’s house?)
3) Or will she be sweeping souls and grouping them together and taking them all away with her?
Surya
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Dear Surya Bhai,
Om Shanti. I will convey your questions to ShivBaba (via Baba Virendra Dev Dixit) and convey His replies through this thread.
Meanwhile, I have received some replies from Baba to some questions raised in this forum and otherwise, which are in various stages of translation and approval. I will be posting them shortly.
Regards,
OGS,
Arjun
Om Shanti. I will convey your questions to ShivBaba (via Baba Virendra Dev Dixit) and convey His replies through this thread.
Meanwhile, I have received some replies from Baba to some questions raised in this forum and otherwise, which are in various stages of translation and approval. I will be posting them shortly.
Regards,
OGS,
Arjun
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Prashna No.105: Murli kya hai? Kya Dada Lekhraj kay tan kay dwara 1947 say 1969 tak Supreme Soul Shiv dwara jo mahavakya boley gaye thay unko Murli kah saktey hain? Kya is Murli nay vishwa ka aur us Murli ko sun-ney vaalon ka parivartan kiya? Kya vah vahee Murli hai jiskay liye Bhaktimarg may gaayan hai ki usnay gopiyon ko aakarshit kiya tha? Kya is kaagaz ki Murli ko ab Gita gyaan kahaa ja sakta hai? Yadi nahi toh usko kya kahein?
Uttar: Baba nay kahaa hai ki Brahma kay mukhh say jo bhee gyaan nikalta hai vah Murli hai. Ab advance gyaan kay anusaar Brahma bhi chaturmukhi hai. Toh jo kuch Baba dwara ya toh Piu dwara, ya titledhaari Brahma dwara ya fir vartamaan Sakar rath dwara sunaaya gaya ya sunaaya jaa rahaa hai usay Murli kah saktey hain. Lekin jo kuch 1976 say pehley bola gaya hai aur abhi keval mudrit murliyon kay roop may uplabdha hai unhay advance gyaan kay anusaar shastra maana ja sakta hai. jis Vani me umang , utsah ka parivartan spast dekhne me aata hai wahi Murli hai.
Prashna No.106: Kya Ram vaali aatma kay tan say diya jaa rahaa clarification (arthaat advance gyaan) Murli kaha ja sakta hai? Kya cassettes ya cds jo ham suntey hain – kya unhay Murli kahaa ja sakta hai kyunki vah rath kay mukhh say sunaaya jaata hai? Kintu durbhaagyavash in cassettes aur cds say bhi PBKs ka parivartan nahi hua hai. Toh parivartan laaney vaali vaastavik Murli kaunsi hai?
Uttar: Baba nay kahaa hai ki Brahma say Vishnu ban-ney may ek second lagta hai. Vah second tab aata hai jab ham apney 84 janmon ki kahaani jaan letey hain aur apney part tatha Baba kay part kay oopar poori tarah nishchaybuddhi ban jaatey hain. Fir yah saarey varsh jo spiritual padhaai may lagey hain vah nishchaybuddhi ban-ney kay liye hain. Jahaan tak parivartan ka sawaal hai, advance gyaan kay anusaar pratyek aatma sangam par sato, rajo, tamo avasthaon say guzarti hai. Alag alag samay par vyakigat shooting chalti rahti hai. Sangamyug may kisi ek samay par ek aatma kay liye tamo avastha hoti hai toh kisi anya aatma kay liye sato. Saari vishwa ka wholesale parivartan tab hota hai jab Vishnu ka part aarambh hota hai arthaat jab Sangamyugi Lakshmi Narayan apney perfect stage may pratyaksh hotay hain. --teek hai .
Prashna No.107: Yah kaha gaya hai ki gyaan may refining changing hoti rahti hai. Kaunsay gyaan may? Kya Sakar murliyon may koi parivartan ho sakta hai? Ya kya samayanusaar unki interpretation (jo ki cds aur cassettes may diye gaye hain) may parivartan ho sakta hai? Aur iska arth yah hai ki cassettes aur cds may job hi samjhaani dee gayi hai vah bhi samayanusaar parivartan ho sakti hai, jiska arth yah hai ki cds may jo bhee kahaa gaya hai vah sampoorna satya nahi hai. Is say punah yah prashna utpann hota hai ki Murli (ShivBaba ke mahavakya) kya hai? Aur sachha Gita gyaan kya hai, jo ki aatmaon may parivartan laaney ke liye jimmedaar hai aur jo antatah prithvi par Vaikunth sthaapit karega ?
Uttar: Yah sahee hai ki murliyon may yah likha hai ki Gyan may refining changing hogi. Kintu kis roop may aur kahaan tak, yah samay batayega. Kintu jo bhee parivartan hoga vah murliyon ke vipreet nahi hoga. Jahaan tak sambhav ho vah murliyon may diye gaye ishaaron ke anusaar hi hoga. Murli me bola hai wo Gita to finish ki hui hai , hamari sachi Gita me to anth taak refining changing hoti rahega.aise Murli me bola hai .
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Question No.105: What is Murli?The words of Supreme Soul Shiva (which were spoken through' Dada Lekhraj from 1947 to 1969) can we call it Murli? Did this Murli transform the world and the souls who listened to it? Is this the same Murli which attracted the gopis (co-relating with Bhakti-marg) can this Murli printed on papers be now called knowledge of Gita? If not then what do we call it?
Answer: Baba has said that whatever emerges from the mouth of Brahma is called Murli. Now, as per advance knowledge Brahma is also chaturmukhi (four-headed). So, whatever was or is being spoken by Baba either through Piu, or titleholder Brahma or the present Sakar Chariot can be called Murli. But whatever has been spoken before 1976 and is available now only in the form of printed Murlis can be considered to be scriptures as per advance knowledge. The narration in which the transformation of zeal and enthusiasm can be seen clearly is called Murli.
Question No.106: The clarification (i.e. advance knowledge) which is being given by the body of Ram's soul---can it be called Murli? Can the cassettes or cds which we listen to--can they be called Murlis since they are spoken from the mouth of the Chariot? But unfortunately these cassettes and cds have also failed to bring about the transformation in the PBKs. So the query remains that what is the real Murli which will bring transformation?
Ans: Baba has said that it takes one second to get transformed from Brahma to Vishnu. That second is when one comes to know about their 84 births' stories and becomes completely nischaybuddhi (confident or sure) of their role and the role of Baba. Then all these years which have been spent in the spiritual study is for becoming nischaybuddhi. As regards the transformation, as per advance knowledge every soul passes through the sato (completely pure), rajo (partially pure) and tamo (impure) stages in the Confluence Age. The individual shootings keep taking place at various points of time. Any particular point of time in the Sangamyug may be tamo for one and sato for someone else. The wholesale transformation of the world will take place when the role of Vishnu begins, i.e. when the Confluence-Aged Lakshmi-Narayan get revealed in their perfect stage.-OK.
Question No.107: It has been said that refining-changing keeps taking place in the knowledge-which knowledge? Can there be any change in the Sakar Murlis? Or as per time their interpretation (which is given in cds and cassettes) can change--and so it means that whatever explanation is being given in the cassettes and cds can also change as per time and intellect of PBKs-which means that whatever is said in cds is not the absolute truth. Which again brings us to a vital question as to what is Murli--(the word of God ShivBaba)--and what is true knowledge of Gita which is responsible for bringing the change in souls and will eventually establish Vaikunth on earth?
Ans: It is true that it is written in Murlis that the Gyan will get refined and changed. But in what way and to what extent is a matter to wait and watch. But any change will not be against or opposite to what the Murlis say. As far as possible it will be within the hints given in Murlis. It has been said in the Murlis that ‘that’ Gita has got finished (i.e. completed); but refining and changing will keep taking place in our true Gita till the end. It has been said so in the Murli.
Uttar: Baba nay kahaa hai ki Brahma kay mukhh say jo bhee gyaan nikalta hai vah Murli hai. Ab advance gyaan kay anusaar Brahma bhi chaturmukhi hai. Toh jo kuch Baba dwara ya toh Piu dwara, ya titledhaari Brahma dwara ya fir vartamaan Sakar rath dwara sunaaya gaya ya sunaaya jaa rahaa hai usay Murli kah saktey hain. Lekin jo kuch 1976 say pehley bola gaya hai aur abhi keval mudrit murliyon kay roop may uplabdha hai unhay advance gyaan kay anusaar shastra maana ja sakta hai. jis Vani me umang , utsah ka parivartan spast dekhne me aata hai wahi Murli hai.
Prashna No.106: Kya Ram vaali aatma kay tan say diya jaa rahaa clarification (arthaat advance gyaan) Murli kaha ja sakta hai? Kya cassettes ya cds jo ham suntey hain – kya unhay Murli kahaa ja sakta hai kyunki vah rath kay mukhh say sunaaya jaata hai? Kintu durbhaagyavash in cassettes aur cds say bhi PBKs ka parivartan nahi hua hai. Toh parivartan laaney vaali vaastavik Murli kaunsi hai?
Uttar: Baba nay kahaa hai ki Brahma say Vishnu ban-ney may ek second lagta hai. Vah second tab aata hai jab ham apney 84 janmon ki kahaani jaan letey hain aur apney part tatha Baba kay part kay oopar poori tarah nishchaybuddhi ban jaatey hain. Fir yah saarey varsh jo spiritual padhaai may lagey hain vah nishchaybuddhi ban-ney kay liye hain. Jahaan tak parivartan ka sawaal hai, advance gyaan kay anusaar pratyek aatma sangam par sato, rajo, tamo avasthaon say guzarti hai. Alag alag samay par vyakigat shooting chalti rahti hai. Sangamyug may kisi ek samay par ek aatma kay liye tamo avastha hoti hai toh kisi anya aatma kay liye sato. Saari vishwa ka wholesale parivartan tab hota hai jab Vishnu ka part aarambh hota hai arthaat jab Sangamyugi Lakshmi Narayan apney perfect stage may pratyaksh hotay hain. --teek hai .
Prashna No.107: Yah kaha gaya hai ki gyaan may refining changing hoti rahti hai. Kaunsay gyaan may? Kya Sakar murliyon may koi parivartan ho sakta hai? Ya kya samayanusaar unki interpretation (jo ki cds aur cassettes may diye gaye hain) may parivartan ho sakta hai? Aur iska arth yah hai ki cassettes aur cds may job hi samjhaani dee gayi hai vah bhi samayanusaar parivartan ho sakti hai, jiska arth yah hai ki cds may jo bhee kahaa gaya hai vah sampoorna satya nahi hai. Is say punah yah prashna utpann hota hai ki Murli (ShivBaba ke mahavakya) kya hai? Aur sachha Gita gyaan kya hai, jo ki aatmaon may parivartan laaney ke liye jimmedaar hai aur jo antatah prithvi par Vaikunth sthaapit karega ?
Uttar: Yah sahee hai ki murliyon may yah likha hai ki Gyan may refining changing hogi. Kintu kis roop may aur kahaan tak, yah samay batayega. Kintu jo bhee parivartan hoga vah murliyon ke vipreet nahi hoga. Jahaan tak sambhav ho vah murliyon may diye gaye ishaaron ke anusaar hi hoga. Murli me bola hai wo Gita to finish ki hui hai , hamari sachi Gita me to anth taak refining changing hoti rahega.aise Murli me bola hai .
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Question No.105: What is Murli?The words of Supreme Soul Shiva (which were spoken through' Dada Lekhraj from 1947 to 1969) can we call it Murli? Did this Murli transform the world and the souls who listened to it? Is this the same Murli which attracted the gopis (co-relating with Bhakti-marg) can this Murli printed on papers be now called knowledge of Gita? If not then what do we call it?
Answer: Baba has said that whatever emerges from the mouth of Brahma is called Murli. Now, as per advance knowledge Brahma is also chaturmukhi (four-headed). So, whatever was or is being spoken by Baba either through Piu, or titleholder Brahma or the present Sakar Chariot can be called Murli. But whatever has been spoken before 1976 and is available now only in the form of printed Murlis can be considered to be scriptures as per advance knowledge. The narration in which the transformation of zeal and enthusiasm can be seen clearly is called Murli.
Question No.106: The clarification (i.e. advance knowledge) which is being given by the body of Ram's soul---can it be called Murli? Can the cassettes or cds which we listen to--can they be called Murlis since they are spoken from the mouth of the Chariot? But unfortunately these cassettes and cds have also failed to bring about the transformation in the PBKs. So the query remains that what is the real Murli which will bring transformation?
Ans: Baba has said that it takes one second to get transformed from Brahma to Vishnu. That second is when one comes to know about their 84 births' stories and becomes completely nischaybuddhi (confident or sure) of their role and the role of Baba. Then all these years which have been spent in the spiritual study is for becoming nischaybuddhi. As regards the transformation, as per advance knowledge every soul passes through the sato (completely pure), rajo (partially pure) and tamo (impure) stages in the Confluence Age. The individual shootings keep taking place at various points of time. Any particular point of time in the Sangamyug may be tamo for one and sato for someone else. The wholesale transformation of the world will take place when the role of Vishnu begins, i.e. when the Confluence-Aged Lakshmi-Narayan get revealed in their perfect stage.-OK.
Question No.107: It has been said that refining-changing keeps taking place in the knowledge-which knowledge? Can there be any change in the Sakar Murlis? Or as per time their interpretation (which is given in cds and cassettes) can change--and so it means that whatever explanation is being given in the cassettes and cds can also change as per time and intellect of PBKs-which means that whatever is said in cds is not the absolute truth. Which again brings us to a vital question as to what is Murli--(the word of God ShivBaba)--and what is true knowledge of Gita which is responsible for bringing the change in souls and will eventually establish Vaikunth on earth?
Ans: It is true that it is written in Murlis that the Gyan will get refined and changed. But in what way and to what extent is a matter to wait and watch. But any change will not be against or opposite to what the Murlis say. As far as possible it will be within the hints given in Murlis. It has been said in the Murlis that ‘that’ Gita has got finished (i.e. completed); but refining and changing will keep taking place in our true Gita till the end. It has been said so in the Murli.
This question has come up in another thread and I think first and foremost the answer should come from Baba Virendra Dev Dixit.
So for the benefit of those interested on the forum could ArjunBhai pass these questions on to Baba.
So for the benefit of those interested on the forum could ArjunBhai pass these questions on to Baba.
- 1. Who is refining and changing the Murli clarifications?
2. In Sakar Brahma Baba days in what way and by whom where the Murlis refined and changed?
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Prashna No.108: Jab ShivBaba ki Yaad may rah kar dushman ko maarna theek hai toh kya iska yah arth lagaaya ja sakta hai ki Yaad may rah kar vikaar may ja saktey hain ya koi aur vikarma kar saktey hain?
Uttar: Kaun si Murli me aise bola hai ki ShivBaba ki yad me rahekar dushman ko maarna theek hai .(Baba ki yad me rahkar desh ki raksha me goli chalaana vajibi hai.) kya Baba hinsa kerna sikhate hai? uddeshya dekha jaata hai kis liye goli chalaya. HAR KARYA ME UDESHYA DEKHA JATA HAI
Prashna No.109: Army may kaam karney vaaley BK yah samajhtey hongey ki Yaad may rahkar goli maarney say paap nahee lagega, lekin yadi unki Yaad accurate nahi hai (jaisey Sakar may nirakaar ke sthaan par nirakaar ko Yaad kar rahey hon) toh kya us sthiti may bhi paap nahee lagega?
Uttar:Accurate Yaad kerney say paap cut hota hai inaccurate Yaad say?
Prashna No.110: Jab Krishna vali aatma Gulzar Dadi ke dwara Avyakt Vani chalaa rahi hoti hai tab kya usee samay Shankar dwara clarification Murli bhi sunaai ja sakti hai, kyonki yah bataaya jaata hai ki clarification Murli ke dauraan Murli padhney ka kaam toh Krishna vali aatma karti hai? Atah Krishna vali aatma ek saath do jagah toh nahi ho sakti na?
Uttar: Avykta Vani raat ko chalti hai, Murli raat ko nehi chalti hai.
Prashna No.111: Kya padhaayi ka arth sirf cassette sun-na aur sir hilaana, chaahey hamey samajh may aaye ya nahee, ya fir padhaayee ka arth hai Murli mahavakyon ka manthan karna aur in gyaan ratnon ka arth jaananey ka prayaas karna? Yadi hamey sirf cassetton ko sun-na hai aur alag-alag say Murli points par manthan nahi karna hai toh fir ham numberwise kaisey banengey?
Uttar: Hamey practical jeevan may dhaaran karna hai. Uskay anusaar hamaara number fix hoga. Sirf cassette aur VCD sun-ney say nahi hoga.
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Question No.108: When it is OK to kill an enemy while being in ShivBaba’s remembrance, then does it mean that one can indulge in sex or perform any other sin while being in remembrance?
Ans: In which Murli has it been said that it is OK to kill an enemy while being in ShivBaba's remembrance? (It is justified to fire shots in the defence of the country while being in the remembrance of Baba). Does Baba teach violence? The objective is seen as to why was the shot fired? (The aim is seen in every task)
Question No.109: The BKs working in Army must be thinking that one would not accrue sins by firing shots in remembrance, but if their remembrance is not accurate (for example if they are remembering the incorporeal instead of incorporeal within the corporeal) then will they not accrue sins even in such a stage?
Ans: Do the sins get cut, i.e. reduced through accurate remembrance or through inaccurate remembrance?
Question No.110: When the soul of Krishna narrates Avyakt Vani through Gulzar Dadi, can the clarification Murli also be narrated through Shankar at the same time, because it is told that during the narration of clarification Murlis, the task of reading the Murlis is performed by the soul of Krishna? Therefore, the soul of Krishna cannot be at two places at the same time.
Ans: Avyakt Vani is narrated in the night whereas Murli is not narrated in the night.
Question No.111: Does 'study' mean just listening to the cassettes and nodding our heads, whether we understand it or not or is it the churning of versions of Murli and trying to find out what these gem of knowledge mean? If we are only supposed to listen to cassettes and not churn individually on Murli points then how do we become numberwise?
Ans: We have to inculcate in practical life. According to that our number gets fixed .It will not get fixed just by listening to the cassettes and VCD's.
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(to be continued tomorrow)
Uttar: Kaun si Murli me aise bola hai ki ShivBaba ki yad me rahekar dushman ko maarna theek hai .(Baba ki yad me rahkar desh ki raksha me goli chalaana vajibi hai.) kya Baba hinsa kerna sikhate hai? uddeshya dekha jaata hai kis liye goli chalaya. HAR KARYA ME UDESHYA DEKHA JATA HAI
Prashna No.109: Army may kaam karney vaaley BK yah samajhtey hongey ki Yaad may rahkar goli maarney say paap nahee lagega, lekin yadi unki Yaad accurate nahi hai (jaisey Sakar may nirakaar ke sthaan par nirakaar ko Yaad kar rahey hon) toh kya us sthiti may bhi paap nahee lagega?
Uttar:Accurate Yaad kerney say paap cut hota hai inaccurate Yaad say?
Prashna No.110: Jab Krishna vali aatma Gulzar Dadi ke dwara Avyakt Vani chalaa rahi hoti hai tab kya usee samay Shankar dwara clarification Murli bhi sunaai ja sakti hai, kyonki yah bataaya jaata hai ki clarification Murli ke dauraan Murli padhney ka kaam toh Krishna vali aatma karti hai? Atah Krishna vali aatma ek saath do jagah toh nahi ho sakti na?
Uttar: Avykta Vani raat ko chalti hai, Murli raat ko nehi chalti hai.
Prashna No.111: Kya padhaayi ka arth sirf cassette sun-na aur sir hilaana, chaahey hamey samajh may aaye ya nahee, ya fir padhaayee ka arth hai Murli mahavakyon ka manthan karna aur in gyaan ratnon ka arth jaananey ka prayaas karna? Yadi hamey sirf cassetton ko sun-na hai aur alag-alag say Murli points par manthan nahi karna hai toh fir ham numberwise kaisey banengey?
Uttar: Hamey practical jeevan may dhaaran karna hai. Uskay anusaar hamaara number fix hoga. Sirf cassette aur VCD sun-ney say nahi hoga.
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Question No.108: When it is OK to kill an enemy while being in ShivBaba’s remembrance, then does it mean that one can indulge in sex or perform any other sin while being in remembrance?
Ans: In which Murli has it been said that it is OK to kill an enemy while being in ShivBaba's remembrance? (It is justified to fire shots in the defence of the country while being in the remembrance of Baba). Does Baba teach violence? The objective is seen as to why was the shot fired? (The aim is seen in every task)
Question No.109: The BKs working in Army must be thinking that one would not accrue sins by firing shots in remembrance, but if their remembrance is not accurate (for example if they are remembering the incorporeal instead of incorporeal within the corporeal) then will they not accrue sins even in such a stage?
Ans: Do the sins get cut, i.e. reduced through accurate remembrance or through inaccurate remembrance?
Question No.110: When the soul of Krishna narrates Avyakt Vani through Gulzar Dadi, can the clarification Murli also be narrated through Shankar at the same time, because it is told that during the narration of clarification Murlis, the task of reading the Murlis is performed by the soul of Krishna? Therefore, the soul of Krishna cannot be at two places at the same time.
Ans: Avyakt Vani is narrated in the night whereas Murli is not narrated in the night.
Question No.111: Does 'study' mean just listening to the cassettes and nodding our heads, whether we understand it or not or is it the churning of versions of Murli and trying to find out what these gem of knowledge mean? If we are only supposed to listen to cassettes and not churn individually on Murli points then how do we become numberwise?
Ans: We have to inculcate in practical life. According to that our number gets fixed .It will not get fixed just by listening to the cassettes and VCD's.
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(to be continued tomorrow)
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As I am surely that you are humbly aware, he skipped over the issue of sex and why killing in the name of nationalism is OK by comparison. Its quite deep and I do not ask you to pursue this matter on our behalf. It is the sort of discussion that has to be done in person and in detail.arjun wrote:Question No.108: When it is OK to kill an enemy while being in ShivBaba’s remembrance, then does it mean that one can indulge in sex or perform any other sin while being in remembrance?
Ans: In which Murli has it been said that it is OK to kill an enemy while being in ShivBaba's remembrance? (It is justified to fire shots in the defence of the country while being in the remembrance of Baba). Does Baba teach violence? The objective is seen as to why was the shot fired? (The aim is seen in every task)
A 10 word or less answer is never going to reach the result of why nationalism and conformity to the military tool of the super-elites (because it is rarely used for the interests of the people), is acceptable to God when, say, even simple non-sexual affection or pleasure is not. It is beyond me. It sounds to me like Lekhraj Kirpalani, who was very nationalistic in the early days, speaking from his sanskars again.
I appreciate that Virendra Dev Dixit has to be a slave to the Murlis and not think outside of them for fear of criticism, but underneath this is a deeper issue of whether "God" is actually using His brain and encouraging us to ... or sticking to what Lekhraj Kirpalani once said in the Sakar Murli and pandering to governments etc. It is not really just the issue of whether it is right to pull a trigger but the principle behind it.
I remind him of the old saying, if no one went to fight, there would never be any wars. A study of history shows that most wars were artificially constructed by those with finanical interests and that peoples left alone do just that leave others alone. Why does God serve money and power just as the BK run after it? Did Gandhi and others world-wide not show that successful alternative routes of passive resistance, conscientious objection, protest and refus-ism (refuseniks) make even the super-elite change?
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Prashna No.112: Kya ukta uttar no.111 ka arth yah hai ki vijaymala ki tarah rudramala bhi dhaarnaa ke aadhaar par numberwise banegi? Fir dono may antar kya hai? Fir rudramala ki aatamon ko Gyani kyon kaha gaya hai aur Murli may aisa kyon kaha gaya hai ki ShivBaba ko Gyani tu atma priy hai?
Uttar: Rudramala ka number gyaan, Yaad tatha seva ke aadhaar par fix hota hai, jo ham kartey hain. Aur Vijaymala ka number Dhaarnaa ke aadhaar par fix hota hai jo voh practical life may kartey hain.
Prashna No.113: Rudra mala ka pehla aur aakhri manaka kaun hai? Aur Rudra ShivBaba kaun hain?
Uttar: Rudramala ka pehla manaka Prajapita hai jabki aakhri manaka Jagdamba hai. Rudramala ka pahela manka hai Rudrabap, Vijaymala ka pahela manka hai Vaishnavi . Phool hai Shiv Supreme Soul.
Prashna No.114: PBKs dwara prakashit Murli khand-I may prishth sankhya 351 par chapi Murli dinaank 30.6.01 may likha hai, Bap kabhi punar-janam nahi lete hai ; ek hi baar aakar saare vishwa ko pavitra banane ke liye rajyog sikhatey hain". Ab kaun Silver Age Baap sirf ek baar aatey hain? Shiv Baap pehley 1937 may Dada Lekhraj ko saakashatkaron ka arth samjhaaney ke liye Sevakram may aatey hain; fir 1942 may Sevakram ke shareeer chodney ke baad Shiv Baap kisi mata may pravesh kartey hain; fir vay 1947 may murliyan sunaaney ke liye Dada Lekhraj may pravesh kartey hain aur fir Dada Lekhraj ke shareeer chodney ke baad 1969 may Shankar may pravesh kartey hain. Sangamyug may Shivbaap ka yah baar-baar janma lena ukta Murli point ke anuroop nahee hai. Toh ukta Murli point ke peechey sachhaai kya hai?
Uttar: San 76 me Baap ke roop me ek hi baar aata hai.
Prashna No.115: Sangamyug may milney vaaley trance sandeshon aur Sangamyug may honay vaaley saakshatkaaron ka kya rahasya hai?
Uttar: Trance may jaana alag baat hai aur saakshatkaar hona alag baat hai. Saakshaatkaar kee chaabi Shiv ke haath may hai. Yah baat vartamaan samay laagoo hoti hai jabki Shiv yahaan hain. Jahaan tak Bhaktimarg may saakshaatkaaron ka prashna hai voh drama may noondh hai. Baki bhavna aur pavitrata kay aadhaar par trance may jana noondha hua hai.
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Question No.112: Does the Ans.No.111 mean that rudramala is also going to become numberwise only on the basis of dharana just like the vijaymala? Then what is the difference between the rudramala and vijaymala souls? Why is rudramala given the title of "Gyani souls" and why is it said in Murlis that "ShivBaba likes Gyani-tu atma only"?Ans: Rurdramala's number is set on the basis of Knowledge, remembrance and service that we do and the number of Vijaymala is set on the basis of inculcation in their practical life.
Question No.113: Who is the first and the last bead of rudramala rosary. And who is rudra-ShivBaba himself?
Ans: The first bead of the rosary of Rudra (Rudramala) is Prajapita while the last bead is Jagdamba. The first bead of the Rudramala is Father Rudra; the first bead of the Vijaymala is Vaishnavi. The flower is Supreme Soul Shiv.
Question No.114: In Murli khand 1 (printed by PBKs) Murli dated 30-6-01 on page 351it is written that ''Father never takes re-birth; He comes only once to make the whole world pure by teaching RajYoga." Now which Father comes only once? Father Shiv first comes in Sevakram in 1937 to explain the meaning of visions to Dada Lekhraj; then Father Shiv comes in some mother after Sevakram leaves his body in 1942; then Father Shiv comes in Dada Lekhraj in 1947 to deliver Murlis; and then again Father Shiv comes in Shankar after Dada Lekhraj leaves the body in 1969; these serial births of Father Shiv in the Confluence Age directly contradicts the Murli point above. So what is the truth hidden in the Murli point?
Ans: He comes only once in 1976 in the form of Father.
Question No.115: What is the secret behind the trance messages and divine visions that have been caused in the Confluence Age?
Ans: Going into trance is different. Divine visions are different. The key to divine visions is in the hands of Shiv; this holds for the present time when Shiv is here. As regards the divine visions in the path of devotion, they are fixed in the drama.
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Uttar: Rudramala ka number gyaan, Yaad tatha seva ke aadhaar par fix hota hai, jo ham kartey hain. Aur Vijaymala ka number Dhaarnaa ke aadhaar par fix hota hai jo voh practical life may kartey hain.
Prashna No.113: Rudra mala ka pehla aur aakhri manaka kaun hai? Aur Rudra ShivBaba kaun hain?
Uttar: Rudramala ka pehla manaka Prajapita hai jabki aakhri manaka Jagdamba hai. Rudramala ka pahela manka hai Rudrabap, Vijaymala ka pahela manka hai Vaishnavi . Phool hai Shiv Supreme Soul.
Prashna No.114: PBKs dwara prakashit Murli khand-I may prishth sankhya 351 par chapi Murli dinaank 30.6.01 may likha hai, Bap kabhi punar-janam nahi lete hai ; ek hi baar aakar saare vishwa ko pavitra banane ke liye rajyog sikhatey hain". Ab kaun Silver Age Baap sirf ek baar aatey hain? Shiv Baap pehley 1937 may Dada Lekhraj ko saakashatkaron ka arth samjhaaney ke liye Sevakram may aatey hain; fir 1942 may Sevakram ke shareeer chodney ke baad Shiv Baap kisi mata may pravesh kartey hain; fir vay 1947 may murliyan sunaaney ke liye Dada Lekhraj may pravesh kartey hain aur fir Dada Lekhraj ke shareeer chodney ke baad 1969 may Shankar may pravesh kartey hain. Sangamyug may Shivbaap ka yah baar-baar janma lena ukta Murli point ke anuroop nahee hai. Toh ukta Murli point ke peechey sachhaai kya hai?
Uttar: San 76 me Baap ke roop me ek hi baar aata hai.
Prashna No.115: Sangamyug may milney vaaley trance sandeshon aur Sangamyug may honay vaaley saakshatkaaron ka kya rahasya hai?
Uttar: Trance may jaana alag baat hai aur saakshatkaar hona alag baat hai. Saakshaatkaar kee chaabi Shiv ke haath may hai. Yah baat vartamaan samay laagoo hoti hai jabki Shiv yahaan hain. Jahaan tak Bhaktimarg may saakshaatkaaron ka prashna hai voh drama may noondh hai. Baki bhavna aur pavitrata kay aadhaar par trance may jana noondha hua hai.
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Question No.112: Does the Ans.No.111 mean that rudramala is also going to become numberwise only on the basis of dharana just like the vijaymala? Then what is the difference between the rudramala and vijaymala souls? Why is rudramala given the title of "Gyani souls" and why is it said in Murlis that "ShivBaba likes Gyani-tu atma only"?Ans: Rurdramala's number is set on the basis of Knowledge, remembrance and service that we do and the number of Vijaymala is set on the basis of inculcation in their practical life.
Question No.113: Who is the first and the last bead of rudramala rosary. And who is rudra-ShivBaba himself?
Ans: The first bead of the rosary of Rudra (Rudramala) is Prajapita while the last bead is Jagdamba. The first bead of the Rudramala is Father Rudra; the first bead of the Vijaymala is Vaishnavi. The flower is Supreme Soul Shiv.
Question No.114: In Murli khand 1 (printed by PBKs) Murli dated 30-6-01 on page 351it is written that ''Father never takes re-birth; He comes only once to make the whole world pure by teaching RajYoga." Now which Father comes only once? Father Shiv first comes in Sevakram in 1937 to explain the meaning of visions to Dada Lekhraj; then Father Shiv comes in some mother after Sevakram leaves his body in 1942; then Father Shiv comes in Dada Lekhraj in 1947 to deliver Murlis; and then again Father Shiv comes in Shankar after Dada Lekhraj leaves the body in 1969; these serial births of Father Shiv in the Confluence Age directly contradicts the Murli point above. So what is the truth hidden in the Murli point?
Ans: He comes only once in 1976 in the form of Father.
Question No.115: What is the secret behind the trance messages and divine visions that have been caused in the Confluence Age?
Ans: Going into trance is different. Divine visions are different. The key to divine visions is in the hands of Shiv; this holds for the present time when Shiv is here. As regards the divine visions in the path of devotion, they are fixed in the drama.
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Prashna No.116: Bhagwaan ko abhokta kyon kaha jaata hai?
Uttar: Abhokta vah hai jiskay karmon ka hisaab nahee banta. Baba kahtey hain ki jiska bhi sthool ya sookshma sharer hai usmay swaarth hoga. Kintu choonki Parmatma ka koi sharer nahi hai, usmay koi swarth nahi hai. Choonki uska naam hee Shiv arthaat kalyaankari hai, vah joh bhi kartaa hai vah duniya kay kalyaan kay arth hota hai. Unkay karma kuch logon ko aur kabhi-kabhi nuksaankaarak lag saktey hain, kintu aisey karmon may bhi kalyaan samaya hota hai. Unko karmon ka lep-chep nahi lagta hai kyonki voh sadaiv sampoorna niraakaari/aatmik sthiti may rahtey hain.
Prashna No.117: Baba nay kaha hai ki Satyug aur Tretayug may keval ek bhasha arthaat Hindi hoti hai. Kintu aaj ki duniya may koi bhi shuddh Hindi nahee boltaa. ShivBaba bhi shuddh Hindi nahee boltey. Fir Satyug may bhasha (arthaat shuddh Hindi) kaisey hogi?
Uttar: Pure Hindi ki kya jarurat hai? Satyayug me Hindi se milti-julti bhasha boltey hain; wahaan jyada bolney kee jarurat nahi padti hai, ishaarey ki bhasha hoti hai.
Prashna No.118: Baba kahtey hain ki aatma jyotibindu hai. Kintu us jyotibindu ke chaaron ore laal light dikhaayi jaati hai. Yadi aatma jyotibindu hai toh fir uskay chaaron ore dikhaayi jaaney vali laal light kya hai?
Uttar: Atma safed hai, lekin jis sharir me pravesh kerti hai wo sharir sankalpon ke khoon se bhara hua hai.
Prashna No.119: (i) Jab koi aatma kisi aur aatma ke sharir may seva ke liye pravesh karti hai toh kya sachmuch may apna sharir chod kar jaati hai? (ii) Yadi aisa hai toh fir apna sharir chodtey hi vah sharir mrit kyon nahee ho jaata, aur vaapas aaney tak zinda kaisey rahta hai?
Uttar: (i) Buddhi Yoga ki power ki baat hai. (ii) Aatma ki sampurna stage ki baat hai.
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Question No.116: What is meant by one of the attributes of God, i.e. ‘abhokta’?
Ans: "Abhokta" is someone who is not influenced by the actions that he performs. Baba says that anyone who possesses either a physical or subtle body will have a selfish motive. But since the Supreme Soul does not possess any body, He does not have any selfish motive. Since His name itself is Shiv, i.e. benefactor, anything that He does is for the benefit or upliftment of the mankind. His actions may appear to be harmful for somebody and sometimes but benefits lies even in such actions. He does not incur any karma because He is always in a perfect incorporeal/ soul conscious stage.
Question No.117: Baba has said that in Golden and Silver Age there would exist only one language that is Hindi. But in today's world nobody speaks pure Hindi. Neither ShivBaba speaks pure Hindi. Then how will one language(i.e. pure Hindi) would start in Golden Age?
Ans: Where is the necessity for pure Hindi? In the Golden Age, there would be a language similar to Hindi. There is no need to talk more there; there is a language of signs.
Question No.118: Baba says that soul is a point of light(i.e jyotibindu). But that point of light is shown as having red light around it. If soul is a point of light then what is the red light shown around it.
Ans: A soul is white, but the body in which it enters, that body is filled with the blood of thoughts.
Question No.119: When a soul enters into the body of another soul to do service, then does it actually leaves its own body? If it is true, then as soon as it leaves its body, then why does it not become dead and how does it remain alive till it returns?
Ans: It is a matter of the power of the connection of intellect. It is a matter about the perfect stageof the soul.
Uttar: Abhokta vah hai jiskay karmon ka hisaab nahee banta. Baba kahtey hain ki jiska bhi sthool ya sookshma sharer hai usmay swaarth hoga. Kintu choonki Parmatma ka koi sharer nahi hai, usmay koi swarth nahi hai. Choonki uska naam hee Shiv arthaat kalyaankari hai, vah joh bhi kartaa hai vah duniya kay kalyaan kay arth hota hai. Unkay karma kuch logon ko aur kabhi-kabhi nuksaankaarak lag saktey hain, kintu aisey karmon may bhi kalyaan samaya hota hai. Unko karmon ka lep-chep nahi lagta hai kyonki voh sadaiv sampoorna niraakaari/aatmik sthiti may rahtey hain.
Prashna No.117: Baba nay kaha hai ki Satyug aur Tretayug may keval ek bhasha arthaat Hindi hoti hai. Kintu aaj ki duniya may koi bhi shuddh Hindi nahee boltaa. ShivBaba bhi shuddh Hindi nahee boltey. Fir Satyug may bhasha (arthaat shuddh Hindi) kaisey hogi?
Uttar: Pure Hindi ki kya jarurat hai? Satyayug me Hindi se milti-julti bhasha boltey hain; wahaan jyada bolney kee jarurat nahi padti hai, ishaarey ki bhasha hoti hai.
Prashna No.118: Baba kahtey hain ki aatma jyotibindu hai. Kintu us jyotibindu ke chaaron ore laal light dikhaayi jaati hai. Yadi aatma jyotibindu hai toh fir uskay chaaron ore dikhaayi jaaney vali laal light kya hai?
Uttar: Atma safed hai, lekin jis sharir me pravesh kerti hai wo sharir sankalpon ke khoon se bhara hua hai.
Prashna No.119: (i) Jab koi aatma kisi aur aatma ke sharir may seva ke liye pravesh karti hai toh kya sachmuch may apna sharir chod kar jaati hai? (ii) Yadi aisa hai toh fir apna sharir chodtey hi vah sharir mrit kyon nahee ho jaata, aur vaapas aaney tak zinda kaisey rahta hai?
Uttar: (i) Buddhi Yoga ki power ki baat hai. (ii) Aatma ki sampurna stage ki baat hai.
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Question No.116: What is meant by one of the attributes of God, i.e. ‘abhokta’?
Ans: "Abhokta" is someone who is not influenced by the actions that he performs. Baba says that anyone who possesses either a physical or subtle body will have a selfish motive. But since the Supreme Soul does not possess any body, He does not have any selfish motive. Since His name itself is Shiv, i.e. benefactor, anything that He does is for the benefit or upliftment of the mankind. His actions may appear to be harmful for somebody and sometimes but benefits lies even in such actions. He does not incur any karma because He is always in a perfect incorporeal/ soul conscious stage.
Question No.117: Baba has said that in Golden and Silver Age there would exist only one language that is Hindi. But in today's world nobody speaks pure Hindi. Neither ShivBaba speaks pure Hindi. Then how will one language(i.e. pure Hindi) would start in Golden Age?
Ans: Where is the necessity for pure Hindi? In the Golden Age, there would be a language similar to Hindi. There is no need to talk more there; there is a language of signs.
Question No.118: Baba says that soul is a point of light(i.e jyotibindu). But that point of light is shown as having red light around it. If soul is a point of light then what is the red light shown around it.
Ans: A soul is white, but the body in which it enters, that body is filled with the blood of thoughts.
Question No.119: When a soul enters into the body of another soul to do service, then does it actually leaves its own body? If it is true, then as soon as it leaves its body, then why does it not become dead and how does it remain alive till it returns?
Ans: It is a matter of the power of the connection of intellect. It is a matter about the perfect stageof the soul.
Please can you forward this questions to Baba.
My questions are based on the VCD No.95
Sita in Ravan’s jail -
Clarification of Murli dated 6/7/65
Clarification given in front of Ahmedabad Party it says:
Quote from clarification: “ Lakshmi and Mahalakshmi are two names. So Lakshmi also attains a complete form when Jagadamba and the one, who plays the part of Lakshmi, both start playing the part of sustaining the new world of Brahmins. They both become one by their nature (swabhaav) and resolves (sanskars). When both of them unite, the task gets accomplished. Mahalakshmi and Lakshmi both unite and become one. It means that Jagadamba, who carries the urn received from the Supreme Soul Father and Lakshmi who gathers courage to distribute it – because both of them mingle their nature and resolves and become one, they assume the form of Mahalakshmi. So Jagadamba and Lakshmi together constitute Mahalakshmi. You can say Mahalakshmi or Vaishnav Devi. Their combined form is shown with four arms. So it has also been said that Shankar and Shiv have ‘also’ been mixed together.”
My question: Is easy to understand Shankar and Shiv are mixed together because one is Incorporeal and the other is corporeal. Now if Jagadamba and Lakshmi will become one (Mahalakshmi) - does this means that one will leave the body and enter into the other one? If so, which one leaves the body and why?
Quote from clarification: “The river Ganga is famous. When that river Ganga emerges in the field then the holy war (dharmayuddh) will be seen. So it is said that there is also a confluence in Calcutta.”
My question: What does – holy war – means hear? And what is the meaning of the confluence in Calcuta? Does it mean that Jagadamba and Laksmi will meet in practical in the city of Calcuta?
Thanks Baba!
Surya
Sita in Ravan’s jail -
Clarification of Murli dated 6/7/65
Clarification given in front of Ahmedabad Party it says:
Quote from clarification: “ Lakshmi and Mahalakshmi are two names. So Lakshmi also attains a complete form when Jagadamba and the one, who plays the part of Lakshmi, both start playing the part of sustaining the new world of Brahmins. They both become one by their nature (swabhaav) and resolves (sanskars). When both of them unite, the task gets accomplished. Mahalakshmi and Lakshmi both unite and become one. It means that Jagadamba, who carries the urn received from the Supreme Soul Father and Lakshmi who gathers courage to distribute it – because both of them mingle their nature and resolves and become one, they assume the form of Mahalakshmi. So Jagadamba and Lakshmi together constitute Mahalakshmi. You can say Mahalakshmi or Vaishnav Devi. Their combined form is shown with four arms. So it has also been said that Shankar and Shiv have ‘also’ been mixed together.”
My question: Is easy to understand Shankar and Shiv are mixed together because one is Incorporeal and the other is corporeal. Now if Jagadamba and Lakshmi will become one (Mahalakshmi) - does this means that one will leave the body and enter into the other one? If so, which one leaves the body and why?
Quote from clarification: “The river Ganga is famous. When that river Ganga emerges in the field then the holy war (dharmayuddh) will be seen. So it is said that there is also a confluence in Calcutta.”
My question: What does – holy war – means hear? And what is the meaning of the confluence in Calcuta? Does it mean that Jagadamba and Laksmi will meet in practical in the city of Calcuta?
Thanks Baba!
Surya
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