105) From here - viewtopic.php?p=48612&sid=278ceecfe0ee3 ... 8f5#p48612
106)Baba says- sach kee naav hilegi dolegi, doobege naheen = The boat of truth will oscillate/wobble, but not sink.arjun wrote:PBKs have been given the clarification by ShivBaba (through Baba Virendra Dev Dixit) that
a)when the Yagya was under the control of Brahma Baba and Mama, the shooting or rehearsal of a satopradhan stage was going on.
b)But after the demise of Brahma Baba and Mama the shooting or rehearsal of the rajo and tamo stages is going on.
c)After the demise of Brahma Baba the entire BK kingdom was divided into different zones and entrusted to different Dadis and Didis. These zones got subdivided into sub-zones and areas controlled by dominant teachers. With the revision of Murlis and devolution of powers, the interpretation and application of Shrimat was adulterated, diluted according to the needs of the BK gurus. Worship of BK gurus began in different forms.
d)This decline has been consistent since 1969 and will continue until the BKs and PBKs unite under the guidance and directions of one ShivBaba.
Baba also says- abhee vistaar may jaaney se saar merge huvaa hai = Due to you children have gone into vistaar/gross, the essence is merged/forogotten.
Baba also says- the seed/fruit is seen in the beginning(while planting) as well as in the end (when the tree bears the fruit).
Here , Essence = Seed = Fruit.
So - the PBK interpretation is not necessary here.
Still let us see whether the PBK interpretation fits here.
107)PBKs imply- from 1936/37 till 1942/1947, the control was with so-called Sevakram and two (PBK manipulated) sisters/mothers - Githamata and Radha_bachchi. This period is neither bifurcated, nor interpreted. Have they forgotten?
And- PBKs say- this period had been failure of PBK souls to recognize God's part and they left Yagya. Still they consider this as satopradhaan?
108)Even though Murli point says - Initially all had been babies (and whose who fail in remembrance are like babies even now). PBKs apply this word baby only B baba, even today. How can then they consider baby part as satopradahaan part? [The word baby is interpreted as fool/ignorant here both by ShivBaba as well as PBKs, not as pure].
So- when PBKs claim these things, how can they interpret this as satopradhaan period how this is considered to be satopradhaan period?
109)During the so-called beggary part in BK Yagya around 1947 to 1951, of the 400 children, 70 to 80 survived, others left Yagya. That is- only 20% survived. Others lost faith. Can this period be considered as satopradhaan?
110)Now, what is the map of PBK Yagya? Did it started from 1936 from Sevakram, etc? or after 1969 when Mr Dixit came to gyaan or during 1976 when he gradually realized or in 1980s when Mr. Dixit practically started to establish PBK Gitapathashalas? It is not mentioned by the PBK arjun soul in the comment.
111)PBK Jagatmata Kamala Devi left Yagya in around 1998 and got married and has even children from Kaliyugi way. Can this be interpreted as subtle decline only?arjun wrote:Just as the BKs decline the PBKs also undergo decline, but the decline is subtle because ShivBaba is present with them in corporeal form to observe, guide and correct them.
112)PBKs consider their failures/declinations are only subtle. Not explained.
PBKs failure and misinterpretation of Murlis are clearly seen and put in this forum. Do PBKs accept that these are their failures and declinations/degradation?
If yes, do they fall in the category of only subtle?
113)Mr. Dixit is now absconding since around 2020. (correct me, I forgot the exact year). Is this subtle decline only?
114)Mr. Dixit is now out of PBK Yagya too. Then how can PBKs claim ShivBaba is present with them in corporeal to observe, guide and correct them? How many PBKs have access to their ShivBaba since 2020?
115)How do PBKs define Yagya?
---Till 1947, the name of Yagya is only/just Yagya or "BK/PBK Yagya"?
---After 1947 (when PBK souls leave) name of Yagya becomes BK Yagya? [What about PBK Yagya at that time?]
---Then PBK Yagya gets reestablished in 1969? or 1976 or in 1980s (when Mr. Dixit actually begins to establish PBK centres)?