Dear Arjun
Thank you for your feedback.
Sakar Murlis spoken through Brahma Baba also present the leftist religions in a bad light. But these points are not highlighted by the BKs. I will try to present these points if I find them.
I have the following points from SM. I did not translate them; I received them some time ago as a part of the translation done by AIVV:
Anger will enter into Christians with force.
English people neither become elixir-like intellectuals (parasbuddhi) nor stone-like intellectuals (pattharbuddhi). [Mu.28.7.70]
By looking at the body, it’s said, he's an American, and he’s so and so. [Mu.16-9-70]
Christians have become rich from here. The horoscope of Christians and Krishna tallies. In the end, Krishna takes away everything by making them fight among themselves. [Mu 1-5-73 Pg-3]
Christ is compared with Krishna. Buddha is not compared with Krishna. The childhood form of Christ is sculpted and displayed. Crown is also given to him, but actually he doesn’t get the crown. [Mu.6-6-73]
Foreigners have not seen so much of prosperity, so they do not become so much degraded either. [29-9-70]
Christians have a lot of connection with the Kingdom of Krishna. Christians earn a lot from the Kingdom of Krishna. First, they take the Kingdom of Krishna into their hands and then they return it. Call him Krishna or Lakshmi and Narayan. Now Christians will hand over the kingdom to Krishna [...] it's monkeys who fight and not the cats. [Mu.16-6-73]
Everything has to be taken back from Christian dynasty only. [Mu.17-11-70]
When Christ came, what did he have with him? Nothing. He used to stay in jungles. He used to wear clothes made of leaves. Sex-lust was not was not prevalent at that time. [Mu.1-3-73]
So many pictures (etc.) did not used to be printed in the beginning. This has started ever since the Christians have come. [Mu.27-8-70]
Christians are so strong (in their belief) that they will never touch the scriptures, books etc. of others (i.e. of other religions). [Mu.19-12-70 Pg-3]
Initially people like Christ etc. went towards Europe. [Mu.23-7-71]
Christians will never go to anyone (i.e. other religions). [Mu.2-3-75 Pg-2]
Lots and lots of pictures have been prepared on devilish advice. [Mu.7-5-74]
Baba never gave the advice of holding exhibitions. This is the invention of child Ramesh [...] Then Baba will also pass (i.e. give his consent for) the exhibition. [Mu.13-6-72]
Anyone getting angry should consider himself to be Chandaal (persons belonging to the lowermost caste among Hindus, who attend to funeral work) at that moment. They will get the post of Chandaal.
Christian people will not accept literature etc. from anyone else (i.e. of other religions). They are very proud of their religion. Father says that deity religion is the greatest. They feel that we get a lot from these Christians. [Mu.25-11-78P-3]
Child Ramesh is very clever. He manages to meet ministers etc. [...] Destruction will also take place through Shankar[...] Both Usha and Ramesh have a lot of interest in service. This is a wonderful serviceable couple. [Mu.24-1-73 Pg-4/5]
Christians have lot of connections with India. They had taken Kingdom also (from India), then they are returning it also. They must take a lot of care of India. If anybody attacks India, then all their money will be over. [...] That's why they will try to save India in every way. [Mu.13-11-73 Pg-2]
Here (in India) every one, like Muslims, etc. are called `Shri’ (a word added before the name to express respect, just as Christians add Mr. before any name) [Mu.24-2-74]
Muslims must have been here since last 3-4 hundred years. Not before that. There was total darkness. There was no trouble ... Muslims were very far off (in Dhanbad). [Mu.26-3-73 Pg-2]
This Bharat (India) doesn’t have any enemies. Muslim people came, divided Indians and set them against each other. [Mu.28-11-72 , 7-12-69]
Muslims will beg. In the religion of Muslims only history of fanaticism is very old. [Mu.13-5-72,Pg-3]
Muslims prepare coffins and throw them in the sea. [Mu.17.4.72]
Although they say Hindu-Muslims Bhai-Bhai (brothers). But they do not understand the meaning. Hindus and Muslims are mixed. [Mu.16-2-74]
Both Hindus and Muslims have been living in Hindustan (India) since a log time. They (Muslims) are old enemies. Now who will chase them away? It's a fight between Yawans and Kauravas. [Mu.14-7-73 Pg-2]
When did Muslims come? How many years have passed since then? You can consider it to be 5-6 hundred years. [Mu.19-6-72 Pg-2]
Those who do not know ShivBaba are the Kauravas. [Mu.31-3-72]
The fight is actually between Kauravas and Yavanas. [Mu.26-2-71 Pg-1]
Fighting takes place between Arya Samajis and Muslims. [Mu.2-6-71Pg-2]
As soon as the fighting begins, the fight between Kauravas and Yadavas will begin here. [Mu.14-5-72]
Before 60-65 years electricity, telephones etc. were not there. [Mu.29-9-73 Pg-2]
A person knowledgeable in scriptures is not a theist, but the one who knows the Father is a theist. [Mu.23-6-70]
People have become uncivilized and non-Aryans [...] and the sect which is called Arya Samaj is just a math or Panth (a Monastery or a Sect). [Mu.20-3-74]
It has been 50-60 years since Aurobindo Ghosh and Dayanand (lived here). [Mu.5-6-69]
If anyone gives an assistance of one or two lakhs, then he gets a title of Maharaja. That Government also used to confer titles. Titles like Rai Sahib, Rai Bahadur etc. used to be sold. [Mu.9-10-73 Pg-3]
Kings take loan from the subjects. Now look, the subjects are rich. Government is beggar. It takes loans. In the Golden Age too, similar things happens. The subjects are much richer than those who become Kings and Queens in the end. [Mu.2.6.73]
The title of Maharaja has gone, but even then, if one wishes, he can retain the title by giving one or two lakhs of rupees to the Congress (party). [Mu.12-6-74 Pg-3]
Maharshi also says, “Eat, drink and enjoy. Al these habits will leave automatically. Without Yoga it's difficult to remove the habits. Remover is certainly required. [Mu.16-3-74 Pg-1]
The one who was a nice, number one Shankaracharya, must not have done Bhakti (i.e. followed the path of worship). This (i.e. the present Shankaracharya) is a later one, so he does Bhakti. He was a Govt. servant earlier, and then he got the throne (i.e. the seat of Shankaracharya). [Mu.29-1-74 Pg-3]
Arya Samajis read a lot of scriptures [...] Aryasamajis distribute books, is not it. [25-2-73 Pg-3]
Russians and Americans are brothers (like ego and anger). They compete with each other in making bombs [...] A story is narrated that while two cats fought with each other the cream was eaten by a third one. [Mu.23-10-74 Pg-2]
Establishment takes place through the power of Yoga. Destruction takes place through the physical power. [Mu.15-2-75 Pg-2]
Arjuna (third among the Pandava Princes) means those who are house-holders, and listen to Murli (Godly versions) everyday. [Mu.9-3-70]
Very large pictures of Buddha are also prepared. Human brings are not so huge. [Mu.5-5-73 Pg-30]
Actually deities are Suryavanshies (i.e. people belonging to Sun dynasty or the followers of the Sun of Knowledge (i.e. World Father). [Mu.28-1-75 Pg-1]
Arjuna had divine visions of Vishnu Chatarbhuj (four armed Vishnu, one among the Trinity) and his deity post. [Mu.12-9-70]
Regarding Arjuna it's said that he had many preceptors and he used to read a lot of scriptures. [Mu.22-3-73 Pg-3]
Even in Buddhism, when the sins increase; the followers accept the monkshood (Sanyas i.e. the path of renunciation). Someone gave a speech on Buddhism and converted 60-70 thousand people into Buddhism. [Mu.13-3-72,Pg-1]
The (age or dates of birth) of Buddha and Abraham are also calculated. Especially there will be a difference of one or two births. [Mu.22-11-71 Pg-3]
Guru Nanak has been second in the practice of household life (after deity religion). There have been Kings and Queens in Punjab (a province in India mostly populated by Sikhs). [Mu.9-8-73 ; Night Class)
It is said, "Hail to Guru Nanak Dev or his successors”, the lineage of ten Preceptors whose names are different. Somebody’s name is Singh, somebody's name is Das and somebody's might have been Chandra too. [Mu.5-10-73 Pg-4]
Only the Sikh dynasty follows the household path. Remaining belong to the Nivritti marg (path of renunciation). They are small religions. The Sikh religion is fairly popular. Guru Nanak is believed to have incarnated (as his successor preceptors). No other incarnation of household path is proven except that of Guru Nanak. They have established and then gained Kingdom. [Mu.9-10-73 Pg-4]
The land of truth cannot be established by anyone other than the Father. There's only one true Father, who has been praised a lot. First of all is the deity religion. Then, second number is Sikhism. That's why the Sikh religion is very new. Because they are brothers-sisters. [Mu.10-8-73 Pg-2]
Sikh people sit on the Akaal takht (imperishable throne). They think that the police will not catch them from there. But will they leave them? Those who become the highest have to come down to their lowest stage. [Mu.6-12-71 Pg-3]
The Sikh religion has been established as per rules. Father has explained that a pure soul came and entered (into the body of Nanak who grew up to be Guru Nanak). After that the Sikh religion was established. [Mu.27-12-70 Pg-2]
I don't take responsibiliy for the translation. In fact, when I compared the translation with the Hindi equivalents of these points, I had an impression that some points in English may be misleading.
I wnet through these points several times and asked myself this question: "How may these points be the ground for calling Islamis - vyabhicari+loyal; Buddhists - cowardly pure and sanyasi; Christians - angry and making advertisement; Sanyasis - egoistic and pure; Muslims - greedy; Russians - atheistic and egoistic; Samajis - attached. These are labels that AIVV sticks to selected religions. I find these labels inadequate to the reality. Why should we define groups of people by labeling them like this? This leads to stereotypes and prejudice.
And finally, what are the criteria for creating these groups? Who are Islamis, who are Buddhists, who are Christians... and so on in the AK teaching? How did Baba create this groups? I do reasearch in these topics in AK and so far haven't come across any definition which I could rely on.
