Q and A with Baba

[arjun]

Prashna No.188: Yadi Shankar sadaiv Yaad, nirsankalp stage may rahtaa hai toh voh gyaan ka manthan kaisey kartaa hai?
Uttar: Shankar ko kabhi-kabhi suksham vatan may bhi toh dikhaatey hain.

Prashna No.189: Murli may yah kaha jata hai ki science Satyug may kaam aayega. Ab advance gyaan kay anusaar Satyug ya Tretayug may science nahi hota hai. So, Murli may aisi baat kyon aayi hai?
Uttar: Science ka roop parivartan ho jayega. Yahan science destructive kaam kar raha hai , Satyayug may kalyaankaari kaam karegaa.

Prashna No.190: Clarification detey samay kabhi kabhi Baba kahtey hain ‘ShivBaba Brahma Baba may aatey thay’. Ab ‘ShivBaba’ ka arth hai nirakar aur Sakar ka combination. Toh Sakar may Sakar Brahma Baba kaisay aa sakta hai?
Uttar: Clarification jis tan dwara diya ja rahaa hai uski buddhi may bindi hi Baba hai. Murli may kaha hai -“Terey buddhi may Baba kahney say bindi hi Yaad aavey”

Prashna No.191: Basic Gyan may mai Shiv ko Paramdham may ek oval laal light kay roop may Yaad karta tha. Aur us laal light ko Yaad kartey samay mai divya aanand ki anubhooti kartaa tha. Ab Supreme Soul Shiv ek point of light (safed rang) hai, fir mujhey unhay laal light ke roop may Yaad karney par aanand ki praapti kyon hoti thi?
Uttar: Shiv toh jyoti bindu hai, ling laal light hai.

Prashna No.192: Jab aatma roopi sui ki saari cut utar jayegi, tab tum direct Baap say seekhogey. Kya jab aatma ko meditation may khushi ya current ki anubhooti hoti hai tab aatma kaa cut utar jata hai? Yadi nahi toh cut kaisey nikalti hai?
Uttar: Kat bhi 2 tareekey say utarti hai, ek basically kat utarti hai, advance Gyan leney kay baad jo purusharth kartey hain unki advance may cut utarti hai.

Prashna No.193: Jo devi-devataa Satyug aur Tretayug may 21 janma letey hain, unki jodi 21 janmon tak chalti hai. Kintu un aatmaon ka kya hoga jo 20 ya 19 janma letey hain. Kya aisi aatmaen Satyug aur Tretayug may bhi partner ban kar rahti hain.?
Uttar: Haan,ji.

Prashna No.194: Clarification detey samay kabhi-kabhi aisa hota hai ki Baba jo naam bolnaa chaahtey hain vah bhool jaatey hain ya fir kabhi koi vaakya galat ho jata hai toh vay usay theek kar detey hain. Yadi Supreme Soul bol rahey hain toh fir aisi baatein kyon hoti hain?
Uttar: Murli may kaha hai “bhogna toh inko bhi padta hai na. Yaad karnaa padtaa hai. Accha, Murli samjho Brahma nehi ShivBaba chalaatey hain, parantu yah nandi bhi to chalate honge. Bachchon ko saidav samjhaatey hain ki ShivBaba hi samjho. waha sunaatey hain, kab beech me yah bhi bol detey hain. Baba bhi bilkul accurate hi kahengey. Yah beech may interfere kar boltey hain. Kachchi–pakki point kab nikal jaati hogi toh samjho inki hai. Inko toh saarey din bahut khayaalaat karni padti hai." Murli 14-5-68 p-3

Prashna No.195: 'Karmaateet' avastha ka arth kya hai?
Uttar: Karma kartey huay karma ka lepchhep na lagey, karma kay aakarshan may na aaye, attachment may na aaye.

Prashna No.196: 'Mansaahaari Vishnu' ka arth kya hai?
Uttar: Maansaahaari Vishnu nahi, ye kaha hai Vaishnav Devi kay 2 roop hain, shakahari, maansaahaari. shakahari chhoti mummy hai.

Prashna No.197: Basic gyaan kay aarambh may mai Shiv ko laal jyoti ke roop may Yaad karta tha. Ek baar mai Shiv jyotibindu say connection jod paya aur atyant shanti aur aanand kee anubhooti kee. Mai saarey din 4-5 ghantey tak us avastha may raha. Kintu uskay pashchaat vah avastha praapt nahee kar sakaa. Ab mera prashna hai - us shreshtha avastha ko baarambaar kaisey praapta kiya jaaye?
Uttar: Shuruwaat may satopradhan stage hoti hai; baad may sato, rajo, tamo; baad may phir satopradhan stage ban jaati hai.

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Question No.188: If Shankar is always in remembrance, thoughtless stage then how does he churn knowledge?
Ans: Sometimes Shankar is also shown in the Subtle Region.

Question No.189: In the Murli it is mentioned that science would be useful in Golden Age. Now according to advance knowledge science does not exist in Golden and Silver Age. So, why such statement appears in the Murli?
Ans: The form of science would change. Here science performs destructive tasks. In the Golden Age, it would perform beneficial/benevolent tasks.

Question No.190: While giving clarification sometime Baba says “ShivBaba used to come in Brahma Baba”. Now ‘ShivBaba’ is a combination of incorporeal and corporeal. Then how can corporeal come in corporeal Brahma Baba?
Ans: In the intellect of the body through which clarification is being given, Baba is in the form of a point only. It has been said in the Murli - “when you say Baba, your intellect should be reminded of the point/bindi'.

Question No.191: In basic knowledge I used to remember Shiv in Paramdham as an oval-shaped red light. And while remembering that red light I used to feel a divine joy. Well, the Supreme Soul Shiv is a (white) point of light then why I used to experience joy by remembering him as red light?
Ans: Shiv is a point of light, the ling is red light.

Question No.192: ‘When the entire ‘cut’ (i.e. rust) of needle-like soul would get removed then you would learn directly from the Father’. Is the ‘cut’ of a soul removed when the soul experiences the divine joy or current in meditation? If not, how does the ‘cut’ gets removed?
Ans: The cut (i.e. rust) also is removed in two ways. Firstly the cut (i.e. rust) is basically removed. After obtaining the advance knowledge, the cut (i.e. rust) of those who make efforts, is removed in the advance knowledge.

Question No.193: The pairs of the deities who take 21 births in Golden and Silver Age continues for 21 births. But what about those who take lesser births such as 20 or 19. Do those pairs remain partners for 20 or 19 births in Golden and Silver Age also?
Ans: Yes.

Question No.194: While giving clarification sometimes it happens that Baba forgets the name which he wants to say or if a sentence goes wrong, he corrects it. If the Supreme Soul is speaking then why such things occur?
Ans: It has been said in the Murli 'This one also has to experience suffering. He has to remember. OK, suppose it is not Brahma, but ShivBaba who narrates the Murli. But this Nandi (i.e. Brahma) must also be narrating. He always explains the children to think that it is ShivBaba who narrates. Sometimes this one also speaks in between. Baba would also speak very accurately. This one interferes and speaks in between. If any imperfect point (i.e.version) emerges at any time, then think that it is the version of this one. This one has to think a lot throughout the day. - Murli dated 14.5.68, pg.3

Question No.195: What is the meaning of ‘Karmateet’ stage?
Ans: One should not experience the results of actions while performing actions. One should not get attracted by the actions. One should not get into attachment (of karma).

Question No.196: What does ‘Maansaahaari’ (non-vegetarian) Vishnu’ mean?
Ans: Vishnu is not non-vegetarian. It has been said that there are two forms of Vaishnavi Devi - vegetarian (shaakaahaari) and non-vegetarian (maansaahaari). The junior/small Mummy is vegetarian.

Question No.197: In the beginning of basic knowledge I used to remember Shiv as a red light. Once I was able to connect myself to point of light Shiv and experienced immense peace and joy. I remained in that stage for about 4 to 5 hours throughout the day. But after that I was unable to achieve that stage again. Now my question is – How to achieve that stage of highest experience again and again?
Ans: In the beginning the stage is satopradhaan (pure). Later, it passes through sato, rajo, tamo. Later on, the stage becomes satopradhaan again.

[arjun]

Prashna No.198: Baba nay Dadiji kay sharir chodney ke baarey may kya kaha hai?
Uttar: Vah kisi beejroop aatma may pravesh kar teevra gati say seva karegi.

Prashna No.199: Dinaank 6.9.07 ke Bhog sandesh may kaha gaya hai ki Dadi Kumarka ki aatma ek aisey yugal ke dwara janma leney vali hai jinkay sapney may bhi nahee tha ki unko bachha ho sakta hai. Toh kya iska arth yah hai ki Dadiji ki aatma nay punarjanma liya hai. Ya kya iska behad may kuch aur arth hai?
Uttar: Jab Gandhiji mar gaye to kya bholte hai unhonay Rajkhot me jaa karke kisi sahukar ke yaha janm liya. To ye had ki bath hai ya behad ki bat hai? Ye behad ki bat hai na. To aise hi ye bhi behad ki bath hai.

Prashna No.200: Yagya ki aadi may saakshaatkar ke aadhaar par taiyyaar kiye gaye kuch chitra aur literature aapko dikhaaye gaye hain. Is par aapki kya pratikriya hai? Saath hi us literature say yah siddh hota hai ki Yagya ki aadi may kayi saalon tak Shiv ka naam literature may kahin nahee liya gaya tha. Toh fir Yagya may Shiv ka naam kabsey liya jaaney laga hai?
Uttar: Yagya ke aadi ka koi literature nahi. Jo bhi literatures the un sabko Karachi me bakse me gaad diya.

Prashna No.201: 1) Ashta Dev, 2) Ashta Ratan, 3) Aath Beejroop aatmaon aur 4) Aath Aadhaarmurth aatmaon may kya antar hai? Asht dev sarvashreshth kyon hain?
Uttar: 1. Asht Dev – 108 ki mala may Suryavansh say aarambh hotey huay nau dharmon ke baarah-baarah beejroopi aatmaen hoti hain. Suryavansh ki sabsey oonchi 8 aatmaen Asht Dev kahlaati hain.
2. Asht Ratan – 108 ki mala may pehley aath dharmon ke mukhiya, arthaat baarah-baarah ke aath groups ke mukhiya.
3. 8 beejroop aatmaen –Aath beejroop aatmaen aur asht ratan ek hee hain.
4. 8 Aadhaarmoorth aatmaen – Jaisey 108 aatmaon (PBKs) ki mala hai vaisey hi 108 aadhaarmoort aatmaon (BKs) kee bhi mala hogi. Aadharmoort aatmaon ke 108 ki mala ke pehley 8 dharmon ke groups ke mukhiya hee aath aadhaarmoort aatmaen hain.

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Question No.198: What has Baba said about Dadiji leaving the body?
Ans: She will enter into seed soul and do service in fast pace.

Question No.199: In the Bhog message dated 6.9.07 it has been said that Dadi Kumarka’s soul is going to take birth through a couple, who had not even dreamt in their dreams to have a child. So, does it mean that Dadiji’s soul has taken rebirth. Or does it have any metaphorical meaning?
Ans: It is said when Gandhiji died he took birth in Rajkot at some wealthy person (house). Is it the matter in limited sense or unlimited sense? It is a matter in unlimited sense. Similarly this is also a matter in the unlimited sense.

Question No.200: You have been shown some of the pictures prepared in the beginning of the Yagya on the basis of visions and also some literature of that period. What is your reaction to that? Moreover, it is proved through that literature that Shiv’s name did not appear anywhere in the literature for many years in the beginning of the Yagya. So then, since when did the name of Shiv began to be mentioned in the Yagya?
Ans: There is no literature of the beginning of the Yagya. Which ever literatures were there were buried in the box in the Karachi.

Question No.201: What is difference between 1) Ashta Dev, 2) Ashta Ratan, 3) Eight Beejroop souls and 4) Eight Aadhaarmurth souls?
Ans: 1. Asht Dev (the eight deities) - In the rosary of 108 there are 12 seed-like souls each belonging to nine religions beginning with the Sun Dynasty (Suryavansh). The top-8 souls of the Sun Dynasty are called Asht Dev.
2. Asht Ratan (the eight gems) - The heads of the first eight religions in the rosary of 108, that is, the heads of the first eight groups of 12 each.
3. 8 Beejroop (seed-like) souls - Eight seed-like souls are same as the eight gems.
4. 8 Aadhaarmoorth (base/root-like) souls - Just as there is a rosary of 108 seed-like souls (who would be PBKs) there would be a rosary of 108 base/root-like souls (who would be BKs). The eight base/root-like souls are the heads of the groups of first eight religions in this rosary of 108 base/root-like souls.

[arjun]

Replies given by ShivBaba (through Baba Virendra Dev Dixit) to questions asked by brother new knowledge on this forum:

Q.No.202: According to Advanced Knowledge, the shooting of 4 ages takes place within the shooting of each age, e.g, shooting of Golden, Silver, Copper & Iron Age takes place with equal time durations of 4, 3, 2 & 1 years respectively for each of 4 ages, within the shooting period of the Golden Age, Silver Age, Copper Age & Iron Age of 16, 12, 8 & 4 years respectively, in the Confluence Age drama. Now if the shooting of the Golden, Silver, Copper & Iron Age takes place in the Confluence Age drama, with unequal time durations (16, 12, 8 & 4 years respectively); then why does the shooting of these 4 ages take place with equal time durations (of 4, 3, 2 & 1 years respectively) within the shooting of each of Golden, Silver, Copper & Iron Age respectively?
Ans: The four eras are divided into four parts. The four stages are divided according to ones age.

Q.No.203: If a leap year is added to the shooting of each age, then why a leap year, or at least a leap month, not added to the shooting period of each of 4 ages, within the shooting of each age? For example, a leap year (1977) is added in between the shooting period of the Golden Age (1960-61 to 1976) & that of the Silver Age (1978 to 1989); then why a leap year, or at least a leap month, not added in between the shooting periods of the Golden Age (1960-61 to 1964) & that of the Silver Age (1964 to 1968)?
Ans: A shopkeeper sells the products on discount or gives some petty things to an old costumer who comes on a regular basis. Similarly here also Father gives an additional year for doing effort to those children who take complete 84 births.

Q.No.204: If we talk of shooting within shooting, then why not to think about shooting within shooting within shooting; and even about shooting within shooting within shooting within shooting? For example, shooting of 4 ages takes place within the shooting period of the Golden Age (from 1960-61 to 1976); then why not to talk about again the shooting of these 4 ages within the shooting period of the Golden Age (from 1960-60 to 1964)?
Ans: The shooting period of an individual differs from the shooting of the whole group.

Q.No.205: If the shooting of 4 ages takes place in the direction from the Golden Age to the Iron Age in the form of Girtee Kalaa (descending degrees) or Utarti Sidi (descending ladder); then why not to think about the shooting of these 4 ages in the direction from the Iron Age to the Golden Age in the form of Chadti kalaa (ascending degrees) or Chadti Sidi (Ascending Ladder)? What is the time period of each of 4 ages within the Ascending Ladder?
Ans: It is only in the Confluence Age when our degree goes up (Chadti kalaa) because Father comes only in this Confluence Age. And our celestial degree falls down from Golden Age. It is because we don’t have the company of the Father and come in the colour of company of other souls.

Q.No.206: What is meant by 'Brahma so Vishnu in second'? Does this mean that the soul of Brahma achieves the highest uplifted (Sato-pradhaan) stage from the lowest degraded (Tamo-pradhaan) stage just in one second? Does this mean that the soul of Brahma takes 4,999 years 11 months 29 days 23 hours 59 minutes & 59 seconds to go through the descending ladder & just 1 second to jump at the highest step of the Ladder?
Ans: People have been narrating since 63 births as Krishna is the God of Gita and the same matter is in the intellect of Krishna alias Brahma. Since 63 births it is fitted in the intellect of Brahma that he is the God of Gita, so it takes 5000 years for him to realize the same. So, when this matter fits in his intellect he becomes Brahma to Vishnu in one second. It is considered to be degraded stage, because a son sees his mother in the form of a wife.

Q.No.207: Who is this Brahma who becomes Vishnu just in one second? Is he Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit? Or respected Kamla Devi? Or Dada Lekhraj?
Ans: The three seats were fixed in the Avyakt Vani accordingly Brahma, Bap and Jagadama. Bap is the one in whom the Supreme Soul Shiv is playing in corporeal form. Jagadama is the one who is the mother of the entire world. And the one who is the head of Vijaymala is called Brahma who becomes Brahma to Vishnu in one second.

Q.No.208: During which year, Brahma will become Vishnu in one second? And how?
Ans: Teacher’s duty is to teach and explain everything to the student. It is the duty of student to study the lessons taught by the teacher. How can a teacher say when the student will pass the exam? If one wants to know then one should ask the student.

Q.No.209: What's difference between -
a) Bhakt Maalaa,
Ans: It is the rosary of worshippers who do not get any inheritance from Father.
b) Rudra Maalaa,
Ans: It is the rosary of those who become Kings birth after birth.
c) Vijay Maalaa,
Ans: It is the rosary of those who become Queen birth after birth.
d) Rund Maalaa,
Ans: It is the rosary of those who imbibe knowledge that is Vijaymala.
e) Vaijayantee Maalaa &
f) Vishnu Maalaa?
Ans: The rosary when the Rudramala is added in the rosary of Vijaymala is called as Vaijyantee maala or Vishnu maala.

[new knowledge]

Replies given by ShivBaba (through Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) to questions asked by Brother new knowledge on this forum:

Q.No.202: According to Advanced Knowledge, the shooting of 4 ages takes place within the shooting of each age, e.g, shooting of Golden, Silver, Copper & Iron Age takes place with equal time durations of 4, 3, 2 & 1 years respectively for each of 4 ages, within the shooting period of the Golden Age, Silver Age, Copper Age & Iron Age of 16, 12, 8 & 4 years respectively, in the Confluence Age drama. Now if the shooting of the Golden, Silver, Copper & Iron Age takes place in the Confluence Age drama, with unequal time durations (16, 12, 8 & 4 years respectively); then why does the shooting of these 4 ages take place with equal time durations (of 4, 3, 2 & 1 years respectively) within the shooting of each of Golden, Silver, Copper & Iron Age respectively?
Ans: The four eras are divided into four parts. The four stages are divided according to ones age.

Does Baba mean to say that the shooting of 4 ages of broad drama (Golden, Silver, Copper & Iron) of time periods of unequal ratio within 44 years (from 1960-61 to 2004 ) represent 4 stages (Satopradhan, Sato, Rajo & Pamopradhan) & time period of the shooting of each of these ages is equally devided into 4 parts to represent 4 eras of broad drama? Why it should not also be considered that the shooting of 4 ages of broad drama is represented (with unequal ratio of time periods) within 44 years & 4 stages are represented by 4 equal parts of shooting period of each of these 4 ages? Again Baba's reply do not explain why does the shooting of 4 ages takes place with unequal ratio of time periods & why does the shooting of these 4 ages take place with equal ratio of time periods within the shooting period of each of the 4 ages??

Q.No.203: If a leap year is added to the shooting of each age, then why a leap year, or at least a leap month, not added to the shooting period of each of 4 ages, within the shooting of each age? For example, a leap year (1977) is added in between the shooting period of the Golden Age (1960-61 to 1976) & that of the Silver Age (1978 to 1989); then why a leap year, or at least a leap month, not added in between the shooting periods of the Golden Age (1960-61 to 1964) & that of the Silver Age (1964 to 1968)?
Ans: A shopkeeper sells the products on discount or gives some petty things to an old costumer who comes on a regular basis. Similarly here also Father gives an additional year for doing effort to those children who take complete 84 births.

Here if the Father gives an additional year for doing effort, then is it not necessary to give additional period (one year or at least one month) for doing effort during the shooting period of these ages within the shooting of each of 4 ages?

Q.No.204: If we talk of shooting within shooting, then why not to think about shooting within shooting within shooting; and even about shooting within shooting within shooting within shooting? For example, shooting of 4 ages takes place within the shooting period of the Golden Age (from 1960-61 to 1976); then why not to talk about again the shooting of these 4 ages within the shooting period of the Golden Age (from 1960-60 to 1964)?
Ans: The shooting period of an individual differs from the shooting of the whole group.

Irrelevant answer. When I talk about shooting within shooting within shooting or shooting within shooting within shooting within shooting, then Baba gives irrelevant answer that the shooting of an individual differs from the shooting of the whole group. Then why not to apply the reply when advance knowledge talks about shooting of ages or shooting of these ages within the shooting of each of 4 ages??

Q.No.205: If the shooting of 4 ages takes place in the direction from the Golden Age to the Iron Age in the form of Girtee Kalaa (descending degrees) or Utarti Sidi (descending ladder); then why not to think about the shooting of these 4 ages in the direction from the Iron Age to the Golden Age in the form of Chadti kalaa (ascending degrees) or Chadti Sidi (Ascending Ladder)? What is the time period of each of 4 ages within the Ascending Ladder?
Ans: It is only in the Confluence Age when our degree goes up (Chadti kalaa) because Father comes only in this Confluence Age. And our celestial degree falls down from Golden Age. It is because we don't have the company of the Father and come in the colour of company of other souls.

Then why celestial degrees of Brahmin community are decreasing during the shooting period of 44 years even under the influence of Baba's company? Baba's reply also goes against the advance knowledge. Again totally irrelevant answer.

[arjun]

Q.No.210: Who is Maya?
Ans: Ravan is none other than the five vices - lust, anger, attachment, greed and ego. These five vices assume 100% stage is some human beings which are called as ghosts. So these ghosts compel us to do wrong deeds. Maya is not a different personality but the five vices which are within us.

[suryavanshi]

Dear Arjun Bhai,
Please convey the questions below to Baba:

1) In one of the clarification VCD, it is said that " BapDada chahein toh waapas jaa saktein hain, lekin tum bacchon ke liye rooke huain hain"
and then it is also said that "ek key patit banne sein sab patit ban jaatein hain aur ek key pavan banne sein sabh paavan ban jaatein hain."
Now, the question is that how can Dada ( here "Dada" is for soul of Krishna/Dada Lekhraj/brahma) go back without becoming paavan because it is said that only when soul of brahma alias Dada lekraj will become pure then everyone will become pure. So, how can Dada among BapDada go back without becoming pure??
Therefore, there appears to be controversy in the two above sentences which are highlighted. Please clarify.

2) According to advance knowledge, what does the phrase "Double Videshi" mean ? In other words, what is the unlimited meaning of "Double Videshi" according to advance knowledge.

3) Murli mein hain ki "Rajyog sein vishwa ki baadshahi praapt hoti hai " Aur aisaa bhi kahaa jataa hai ki " Rajyog sein swa(aatmaaa) par rajya karnaa sikhtein hai….
Toh yeh dono baataein, yaane ki swa par rajya aur vishwa par rajya kaisein connected hain? Or in other words, how is controlling the self connected with controlling the whole world??

4) Gyan mein anischay aane ko hi mar jaanaa kahtein hain behad ki bhaasha mein. 84 janmo ki janam maran ki shooting nischay- anishay ke roop mein shooting period mein hoti hain. i) Toh kya 84 baar nischay aur anischay hoga kyaa advance Gyan lene ke baad ? ii) Aur kyaa 84 baar nischay – anischay sabhi 84 janam lene waali aatmaaon ko hogaa kyaa ?
iii) Agar sabhi 84 janma leni waali aatmaaon ko 84 baar nischay - anischay hogaa, toh is list mein Ram waali aatmaan bhi toh aani chahiye na kyon ki oonke bhi 84 janma hotein hain na?

5) Shiv baap 69 sein 76 tak vanprasthi ho jaatein hai Ram ke tan mein. i) uskaa kaaran kyaa hai ? ii) aur Murli mein yaa ayakt Vani mein 69 - 76 tak vaanprasthi hone kaa proof kya hain?

6) Saare 108 rudramala ke beej roop aatmaan kaa sangathan kab hoga ? Vishnu(yaani teesri murti ) ke aane ke pehle yaa baad mein? Yeh toh pehle hona chahiye na kyonki beej toh rudramala ke hain aur rudramala toh pehle banti hain na??

Om Shanti.

[shivsena]

Q.No.210: Who is Maya?
Ans: Ravan is none other than the five vices - lust, anger, attachment, greed and ego. These five vices assume 100% stage is some human beings which are called as ghosts. So these ghosts compel us to do wrong deeds. Maya is not a different personality but the five vices which are within us.

Dear arjun Bhai,

The above answer from Baba clearly indicates that this is not ShivBaba who is giving the answers, but it is Krishna who is giving stereo-typed answers of Bhakti-marg which is known in all the 3 worlds. The same definition of Maya (5 vices within us) exists in all 3 worlds and we expect ShivBaba to explain to us who is the personified form (soul) of Maya who has 100% of all these vices within him in this Sangamyugi drama.

shivsena.
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Dear suryavanshi Bhai.

It is good to note that your churning process has been awakened, as i can clearly see from the set of logical queries you have asked to Baba. But i am sure you will be dissappointed when you get the clarifications, as i have been in the past.

shivsena.

[shivsena]

Dear arjun Bhai.

Just want to correct my above post.

What i wanted to say that the definition of Maya (5 vices) is same in all 3 worlds which are practising varying degrees of Bhakti and there should be a different definition of Maya in Gyan marg, as it has been said in Murlis that Gyan-marg aur Bhakti-marg mein raat-din ka farak hai. (There cannot be same definition)

ShivBaba is not going to define Maya for children, as that is the fundamental exam for us children to find out; only those who define the personified form of Maya and fight it, will be in Gyan marg, the rest will be in Bhakti-marg.

shivsena.

[shivsena]

Dear suryavanshi Bhai.

Just a thought: if you consider yourself a child of ShivBaba then why do you need a mediator (arjunbhai) to ask queries to Baba Virendra Dev Dixit on your behalf, why cannot a child ask the Father directly by writing to him through email ... or is there some other reason??

shivsena.

[arjun]

Prashna No.211: BKInfo forum ke PBK section may ek charcha shuru hui hai ki PBKs say Mama ka lokik naam kyon likhvaya jaata hai aur usmay Dikshit surname kyon lagvaya jata hai jabki vah Yagya chod kar chali gayi hai aur kayiyon ka yah maanana hai ki unhonay doosree shaadi kar lee hai.

Uttar: Baba kahan bolte hain ki Mama Yagya chod chali gayi. Bhal Mama chod kar cali gayi par Baba ne to unko choda nahi.Baba ko to pura vishwas hain ki Mama hi Jagadamba hai. Vo vapas zaroor ayegi. Laukik duniya me bhi divorce tab hi mana jata hai jab dono taraf se uske liye manzoor hain. Par edhar to Baba abhi bhi Jagadamba mante hain.

Mama ka naam isliye likhvaya jata hai kyun ki vo to Jagadama hai. Vo asuro ki bhi ma hai aur devtayon ki bhi Maa hain. Vo devtayon ki bhi support karti hain aur asuron ko bhi support karti hain. Aur Jagadamba Mahakali banti hain aur poor duniya ka vinash karti hain. Asuron ka vinash karna, purane duniya ka vinash karna bhi to kalyankari hain na.
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Q.No.211: A discussion has been started on in the PBK Section of BKInfo forum that why are the PBKs made to write the lokik name of Mama and why are they made to suffix Dikshit to that name when she has left the Yagya and many people believe that she has remarried.

Ans: Does Baba say that Mama has left the Yagya? Although Mama left, Baba certainly did not leave her. Indeed, Baba has complete faith that Mama alone is Jagdamba. She will certainly come back. Even in the outside (lokik) world, divorce is accepted only when both parties agree to it. But here Baba still considers her as Jagdamba.

(PBKs) are asked to write Mama’s name because she is Jagdamba. She is the mother of demons as well as the deities. She supports the deities as well as the demons. And Jagdamba becomes Mahakali and destroys the entire world. Destroying the demons, destroying the old world is also beneficial, isn’t it?

[shivsena]

Ans: Does Baba say that Mama has left the Yagya? Although Mama left, Baba certainly did not leave her. Indeed, Baba has complete faith that Mama alone is Jagdamba. She will certainly come back. Even in the outside (lokik) world, divorce is accepted only when both parties agree to it. But here Baba still considers her as Jagdamba.

There was never a official divorce between Baba dixit and Mama, because they were never married officially in the first place. If she has come back to the pbk family in future as jagdamba, then why did she leave the family and also why did Baba dixit not stop her in the first place. (unless there are some hidden agendas to the whole episode)

shivsena.

[RudraPutra]

... why did Baba dixit not stop her in the first place. (unless there are some hidden agendas to the whole episode)

....why to stop?....baba says everyone is independent to do anything....if we say that "we souls are brothers"..than from soul point of view each and every brother has the right to take his(or her) own decision....why baba should interfere in such things...every soul is playing it's role perfectly whether it is positive or negative....no need to interfere....finally truth is gonna reveal, then why to worry.....truth never runs behind someone for support ....truth has it's own capacity to prove itself...so if Mama decided to take such decisions it's her wish....she can do so.....and she did!!!...

[sachkhand]

Q.No.210: Who is Maya?
Ans: Ravan is none other than the five vices - lust, anger, attachment, greed and ego. These five vices assume 100% stage is some human beings which are called as ghosts. So these ghosts compel us to do wrong deeds. Maya is not a different personality but the five vices which are within us.

Murli Khand 1, pg. 109; Murli dt. 22.3.99 pg. 3:
"Tum Sangamyug par khade ho aur manushyoon ke liye Kaliyug chal raha hai. Kitna ghor andhiyara hai. Girte hee rahate hain. Koi to nimitt bhi hoga. Wah hai Ravan."

"Ask any scholar or Shankaracharya, “Who is Ravana?” They will say it is an imagination (of vices). When they do not know, how else can they respond?" [Mu.20-2-73 Pg-2]

[sachkhand]

Prashna No.133: Murliyon may kaha gaya hai ki 'Atma paramatma alag rahe bahu kaal'. Iska kya arth hai?
Uttar: Yah jo Murli point hai iska arth is prakaar hai - Yah baat Yagya ke aadi ki hai; Parmatma Baap san 41-42 tak Ram ke vyaktitwa ke dwara bachhon say miley aur punah san 76 say Baap ki pratyakshata ke baad say ab tak bachhon say mil rahey hain; toh yah bahukaal ho gaya.

http://brahmakumaris.info/download/BK%2 ... e-1942.pdf
So, when the decrees were sent to many important persons and when Prajapati Brahma was considered as The Gita inventor, was it mentioned for Sevak Ram or for Dada Lekharaj. If it was for sevak Ram why was the photo of Dada Lekharaj given in the literature of that time?
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Sanjeev.

[Pushkin]

The question:

It is taught and propagated that Sevakram and Dada Lekhraj were married and had families when they started to be chariots of Shiva. Both had to be over 60 to become chariots, as it was taught that Shiva enters only when his Chariot is over 60 and he comes in the household.

When Shiva entered his new Chariot in 69, in a secret form, he was only 27 years old (33 in the year of the revelation) and did not have his family; he lived a life of a batchelor, denying the need of the household life as it is taught and clarified in Murli clarifications and literature.

What is the reason of this change? Now, when the new part started, there is no more need of vanaprastha stage of the Chariot and there is no more need that the Chariot is in the household. Do you know any class or Vani when all this is clarified? At the beginning it was necessary to be vanaprstha and in the household in a physical sense and when the part of the teacher starts, there is no more such a need? Finally, the role of the teacher in the role of being an example in the real life, not only to give lectures.

I decided to raise this question here, becasue I myself am asked very often by people to whom I narrated things from gyaan. When I say that ShivBaba teaches about the family life and staing in the household, they ask me often: Does he show how to do it? Does he have a wife and children? Of course they ask about physical things. While in the case of Dada Lekhraj it was quite clear that he has his wife and family in a physical sense and he followed the path of Gyan, in the case of Prajapita it is not so clear - he never had the worldy wife and children in a physical sense and he was very young when he became a Chariot. Hearing that the Chariot never had a family, many people ask how he can be called experienced and how he can understand what the family mean and how the life in the family looks like?