Dear Shivsena Bhaishivsena wrote:In AK, this alankar is assigned to Mamaa Saraswati as she was no. 1 in churning the knowledge and since she is associated with the swadarshan chakra , then why cannot she be personified ShivBaba, as it is said in Murlis "sabse pahele ShivBaba hai swadarshan-chakra dhari...phir woh tumko swadarshan-chakra dhari banate hain".[" First ShivBaba is swadarshan-chakradhari..then HE makes you (108) swadarshan-chakradhari."]
Mama is represented as one of the four cooperative arms of Vishnu, she is not the controlling no 1 supreme human soul, which is Prajapita-Ram, whose full body is shown in the form of Confluence Age Narayan, decorated with all virtues and powers. It is Ram who is no 1 in Gyan and remembrance, and as a result he emulates Father Shiv's incorporeal stage, and becomes no 1 in all subjects.
Mama represented by the chakra is on the right hand side of Vishnu in the Trimuty picture, which i believe represents the Moon Dynasty Kingdom of the Confluence Age. Jagadamba and Lakshmi, eventually become Sun Dynasty souls in the Confluence Age itself, and are represented on the left hand side of Vishnu. So although Mama is represented by the chakra, she was only no 1 in Gyan in terms of the Moon Dynasty Kingdom... ShivBaba has said in the Murli that others are higher than Mama and Baba...
"If the post of Mama(Radhe) and Baba(Krishna) is high, then the post of (some more knowledgeable) children (Ram-Sita) could be much higher." [Mu 14.03.63]
You have said before i believe, that the knowledge should emerge naturally within the no 1 shiv-shakti soul... then why does Mama have to churn Gyan, if she is ShivBaba?
Roy