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Baba (ShivBaba) is sitting in his (Brahma Baba’s) body. So surely one (RIGHTEOUS Child) will be reminded of (Brahma Baba’s corporeal) body also (EVEN AFTER he leaves his corporeal body). (Children think that) Such Soul (ShivBaba) present in such a body (of Brahma Baba – in ‘Sakar’ until 1969, and in ‘akar’ to date) possesses such virtues." (7.4.84, pg.1)
This is said to be wrong in the Murlis. We should not remember destructible objects. If we remember Brahma we will become impure. Even his photo should not be kept.
In the above mentioned post it is said that righteous children experience the current from the supreme Father, hence they are in the company of truth. Although I am not doubting the ability of the righteous children to experience current, it cannot be used as argument as there is no proof about what each one experiences.
Company of truth is practical, only then there could be purification process, when we receive the color of the company of our bodily organs. Whatever we experience through the body is easily remembered. If we see one, listen to one, we will remember one. Wherever our body is, there shall be our mind.
It is also said that wherever will be our money, there shall be our mind. If we invest money with humans we will remember humans. Like in the BK, people may give in the name of God and with a pure motive, but the ones whom they give are impure, hence it is not a charity, but a loss. Even if we give to humans, if they are helpers of God, if the river has a connection with the ocean these rivers are purifiers. But everyone can claim that I have mental connection with the ocean, what is the proof. The proof would be something to verify. The ocean himself should be able to verify if certain child is his instrument responsible. This way we will listen to one only. Otherwise if we listen to everyone claiming to have direct connection, receiving current, etc., we will surely be misguided. In the BKs it is people who make other people instrument responsible.
"You (RIGHTEOUS Children) know that (ShivBaba) is in the body of Brahma (Baba). So surely you will have to remember here (when you are STILL body-conscious). He’s not above (in the Soul World – at that PARTICULAR TIME when He is in the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, BUT He does not remain in the corporeal Body the whole day – He speaks the Versions and then LEAVES). He has come here at this Confluence Age. Father says I have come here to make you so great. You Children will remember here (UNTIL you are able to TRANSCEND body-conscious, and DEVELOP soul-consciousness). Father (ShivBaba) says I am in (Brahma Baba’s) body. Remember Me in THIS body (of Brahma Baba – in ‘Sakar’ until 1969, as long as you have the GROSS body-consciousness of your corporeal body; and in ‘akar’ after 1969, as long as you have the SUBTLE body-consciousness of your subtle body) ." (24-12-70 pg-3)
In the above point it was said that the remembrance within a body and without a body depends on the stage of children. If they are able to transcend the remembrance within the body (that is of a lower level), they go to the higher level in akar after 69. But do we have the guarantee that in 69 all children automatically transcended the gross remembrance, just because Brahma Baba left the body. This was not result of their effort. What about those who did not transcend. In whose corporeal body are they to practice their lower and more basic level of remembrance after 69, so that they prepare themselves to transcend this. What about new souls coming to Gyan. Are they automatically more elevated, just because they have come after 69, when remembrance is possible only in akar.
Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who CLEARLY UNDERSTAND the TRUTH, because they NOW CLEARLY EXPERIENCE the COMPANY of TRUTH, and who become TRUE through the CONSTANT COMPANY of the TRUE Father, ShivBaba or God, and who are involved in HIGHLIGHTING the CLEAR CONTRAST between what God ACTUALLY says and what human bodily ‘gurus’ or preceptors DECEPTIVELY say, and what is their final destination?
Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who DO NOT CLEARLY UNDERSTAND the TRUTH, because they are NOW NOT in the COMPANY of TRUTH, and who are STILL in the DEEP SLEEP of body-consciousness (and THEREFORE, who CANNOT become TRUE since they DO NOT have the CONSTANT COMPANY of the TRUE Father, ShivBaba or God), and who become FALSE in the constant company of FALSEHOOD of the CORRUPTED Knowledge of bodily ‘gurus’ or preceptors, (and THEREFORE, who are NOT ABLE to appreciate or DIFFERENTIATE the CLEAR CONTRAST between what God ACTUALLY says and what human bodily ‘gurus’ or preceptors DECEPTIVELY say - and who will SUDDENLY realize that the RIGHTEOUS Children were ONLY telling the ACTUAL TRUTH all along - but ONLY at the very END, when it will be TOO LATE), and what is their final destination?
For many births we have had righteous children telling us what God says. This does not work in the Confluence Age when God comes and himself says what he likes to say.